My theory regarding BJJ and Japanese Jiu Jitsu

I know an ITF TKD guy who goes to my club and beats the snot out of me. I'll reserve judgement until I spar with more.

 

He bulldozed me. It's not like I was caught by surprise And yes wrestlers are incredibly strong and not easy to shake off. The fact that he got up after slamming his head hard is a testament to how tough they are.

I didn't claim any superiority over wrestling. As usual people put words in my mouth. What type of club are you talking about - MMA?

 

So what exactly happened and what context/situation was it?

 

It was 10 years ago.. A spontanously arranged competition of wrestling. People were bored and wanted it. Simple as that.

I remember even back then the claim: boxing beats karate/TKD/Kung fu -While olympic wrestling beats them all.

 

I didn't claim anything either. We train in kickboxing, muay thai, BJJ, CSW, and kali through out the week. There is one MMA class at the weekend.

 

It's beginning to sound like the GR guy immediately took you down and you subsequently imagined that a concrete floor would have stopped him at that point. I'm just guessing. Am I close?

If so, that doesn't really support your argument at all.

 

No. He tried to take me down and failed. Instead he went down head first.

Btw this stuff about being thrown on concrete as effective as a strike is not true. Unless the guy falls head first like the wrestler did(that was inside), the opponent will get back up again right away. I have floored heavy guys doin sommersaults and landing on their back on concrete, and they got up. They would NOT get up ifI would have punched or kicked them in the face full force. Thats why I said striking is more effective against several opponents and takes less time.

 

I was referring to throws - JUDO. When I threw the guy we were one one, and I waited for him to get up, close the distance and get thrown again (which is exactly what happened).

If this had been several guys and I attempted to follow up my throw, the other ones could assault me, had it been a gang of competent individuals.

 

So landing on your head into concrete is less damaging than being punched? Cool story bro, needs more dragons though....

 

He got up fast. Landning on concrete doesn't mean anything unless I basically lift the dude up and throw him down.

 

I wrote, UNLESS he lands head first on concrete. That's a big if.

 

Supposing the striker is good at striking (which is everyones ambition), I prefer wokring on that, as opposed to simply being able to throw someone on concrete. I will work on that more than throws.

 

I can't speak for the generating power in my strikes against an a MMA fighter, but that doesn't matter now does it? We are most likely dealing with street thugs.


The chances of an opponent not getting up are higher if I punch him full force. Am I crazy in holding to this belief?

 

Grappling isn't about throwing or ground work

like striking its about control

tying, untying, gaining dominance of a close range, Getting off the floor or your opponent quickly = these are all things i've spent the first and last quarter of any class of bjj/wrestling/judo ive been to in multiple countries by instructors of vastly different backgrounds and nationalities.

during the last two classes i did we spent the entire class sparring with the aim of creating distance, controlling the situation and getting up safely.

 

Yes, punching is more effective time wise and connectively.

Now your turn: Throw the individual on concrete - landing on his back, or punching him. Both executed equally well. Make your pick.