Military Debating CQC instead of MMA

Discussion in 'MMA' started by Pretty In Pink, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    That's why all of us yanks are gun toting crazies. We know how well cqb works...
    We would just assume shoot you. ;)
     
  2. SWC Sifu Ben

    SWC Sifu Ben I am the law

    How is this such a complex discussion? Resistant training enhanced by focus on contextual specifics of the job.

    I would think a lot of this could be dealt with fairly easily just by having the brass asking the guys who actually do the job what they need.
     
  3. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    " sorry quoted the wrong person. Stupid phone"

    That is why the yank military takes aspects of all effective martial arts. We know you can't just rip off a set of gonads or an ear You need a knife to cut them off.
     
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  4. SWC Sifu Ben

    SWC Sifu Ben I am the law

    Do you even Krav bro?
     
  5. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    No but I do take suplaments
     
  6. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    That pre-supposes that they have a significant amount H2H experience allowing them to know what they need.
     
  7. SWC Sifu Ben

    SWC Sifu Ben I am the law

    Although if you ask current and former and find they have plenty of deployments and not much H2H experience then it certainly alters the parameters of the discussion
     
  8. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds


    As former infantry. C 425 infantry airborne lrrp. Not a lick of h2h needed. extended 40 hours of training given. Maybe my team was lucky. We just surveyed bomb damage
     
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  9. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    We got 10x that much training in the Paras. Of course, our 'training' consisted of 50p Aftershocks and bare knuckle boxing with civvies in some dive bar in Aldershot.
     
  10. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    Well if we are including that. I spent a lot of time behind bars from my advanced warfare training scenarios. Fueld by cheap whiskey
     
  11. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    We got 10x that much training in the Paras. Of course, our 'training' consisted of 50p Aftershocks and bare knuckle boxing with civvies in some dive bar in Aldershot.
     
  12. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Posted twice... think all those shots haven't worn off yet.
     
  13. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Very true. As an enlisted guy, we had very little (back in 1989).

    However, today's missions do require a lot more 'soft skills'. As I wrote before, our task with the 10th MTN Div was to help develop a practical program. Although there are more Army-wide programs, various units can contract out for local services.

    The biggest thing they wanted was the non-lethal control and escort training...


    Yes, the main guy who was advising us and putting the program together is a (Combat Hapkido black belt and) former Delta Force trooper by the name of CSM Redmore (http://www.army.mil/article/35809/F...ors_retiring_division_command_sergeant_major/)
    Not as mysterious but a definite hard-charger.

    What is C 125? Was that your unit? Was it attached to an MI unit?

    All the way!
     
  14. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    Thomas.

    C company 425th infantry. airborne long range recon patrols. Part of 82nd airborne. Was a primary reserve unit with several active duty components. Wich I was part of. Sadly they are now disbanded satellites do what we did cheaper. Not better. I guess you could say it was an arm of MI. Or lack there of.


    Also commonly known as lrrsu. Long range recon and survalence units.
     
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  15. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Very cool... have to say I have never heard of your unit though.

    I was with the 165th MI BN... we had an attached LRS company (E/51st INF) that I had the opportunity to cross train a little with. Being Airborne in a leg unit made me a bit jealous of their berets though! (Of course, now everyone has a beret)
     
  16. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    My apologies to every one and to my brothers. My key board and fat fingers are not working as a team. F company 425 infantry.

    Not c. Not 125. Agian I apologize
     
  17. kuntaoer

    kuntaoer Valued Member

    The filipino marine recon guys are involved with a program that is being taught by an associate of mine who is a MSGT in the recon.. He is currently the head instructor for their combat kali training and is currently teaching several classes to bring the recon guys up to speed with their empty hand and bladed cqc. He is one of the guys who has spent his whole career with Recon and has trained the US Marines from time to time during field exercises that are on going in country..

    These guys use their training on an ongoing basis when facing the abu sayaf and other renegade political factions from Mindanao, so if that isn't being field tested and proven, I dunno what is
     

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