Matt vs. Royce[Spoilers}

wow, was Royce only that good in the early UFC's

Not that hes not good, just the difference between himself and Hughes..

At least the earlier fights of the night were more exciting!

 

I think we learned that a lot changes in 10 years.

 

not really; great graplping beats poor grappling. we have always known that.

 

and strong beats weak...and well rounded beats one-dimensional...and aggressive beats passive...

 

Sorry I really screwd up.

Sorry guys. I got way too excited at the end. I have completely overlooked the fact or missed that this broadcast was'nt live like the Boxing.

 

KMGUY8,You are right. I am a Moron. Next time I won't do this after jumping up & down front of the T.V after a Matt hughes GNP clinic. Sorry again.
Question: Was this Royces first no Gi fight?

 

Did anyone notice Royce tapped twice with his right arm at the end of the match? It happened as soon an big john mccarthy stepped in you can see it through his legs.

 

Looked at it on YouTube, couldn't see what you are talking about.

 

Me neither.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zrCTLW3aOw&search=royce"]Royce Tapped? - YouTube[/ame]

found this link on you tube, sort of looks like a tap with the right hand but very hard to tell with the ref rushing in

 

Thanks for the link. The higher the pedistal the farther the fall.

I was wondering the same thing. The Gracie grappling legendary status seemed to need the Gi, in the past.

 

I personally don't think it looked clear enough to be a proper tap, but it is very difficult to tell.

As for the fight showing a lot has changed in 10 years, I think that was obvious from earlier fights - ie. how Tito beat up Ken, how Tank got owned by everybody etc.

 

The fight was interesting but I don't think it means much in the grand scheme of things. Royce is to old and fighting at the wrong weight, his stand up was poor and his takedown defence was no where near being up to par, these are all things sensible people should allready know, the fight just confirms it.

 

No, that's what they said!

I was trying to work that one out too. Maybe that was an octagon record and excluded any ring fights in Pride or K1?

Edit: Nope just thought about that and even his non-fight with Harold Howard was officially a loss.

Hmmm

 

And they didn't take into account his draw with Ken Shamrock so it wasn't even his UFC record....very strange

 

Royce isn't too old, Couture was older when he was winning...

I don't see why so many people say his stand up is so bad, Hughes didn't dominate on the feet. I'm not saying he is a great striker, or even a good one, but what in this fight made you think it was so bad?

Takedown Defense- He didn't even consider that, why defend a takedown when you would love to have it on the ground? If I was him I would just lay on my back from the start of the fight and hope the other fighter would go along with it.

 

No. His second fight with Yoshida, his match with Akebono and I believe the fight he had for K-1 on New Years Eve were all no gi as well. This was his first time in the Octagon without a gi though

 

http://media.putfile.com/Royce-Gracie-vs-Matt-Hughes-UFC-60

you can see it in that link a little bit better, but Its alot easier to see it if you recorded it and rewatched it on the tv

 

My dumb VCR broke the day before the fight, so no recording

 

I have been watching the replay over & over. I am not a Royce fan but Is it me? or Royce looked out of it from the start of the fight. And Matt Hughes hardly broke any sweat. I've been watching his old fights, including throwing the towel with Sakuraba. All his set up's were very different then this fight. I think this fight was one of the easier fights for Matt. I am no fan of Matt either. wanderli Silva is my fav Fighter. I still believe Royce fights better with his GI on.