Hi 'memoryman', Spooky - I've just started being interested in this art and have been searching too Try www.dmaa.co.uk I've ordered today a copy of an instructional tape on Water Boxing from Playwell... www.playwell.co.uk Where are you based - and if you find a teacher - please let me know... All the best. Robert.
thanks Robert, i saw that one but i'm manchester way. If you find anyone let me know. Did you check the links from that page? some interesting stuff.
Usually the system is taught as the end result of thaving studied Hsing Yi, Bagua an Tai Chi. It takes a while to learn but is loads of interesting ideas.
I haven't seen his Liuhebafa, but can vouch for the quality of Mike Patterson's DVDs. They show a lot of martial applications. They're good applications too in my opinion, with a range of strikes, qinna and throws. Liuhebafa 2 DVDs
There is one group in the UK teaching LHBF, but not sure if they teach it in all their classes. The Wu Hao people: http://www.haotaiji.co.uk/schedule.html
They do wu style taichi. It is still the same thing you will learn Tai Chi Chuan, Hsing Yi, Bagua they might let you study LHBF. They look like they are very structured study approach. That is the site give the appearance of being very structured. Usually the older style will require you to study thru the systems like Hsing Yi, Bagua, Tai Chi before they show you how to develop LHBF. LHBF is made from like this; Hsing Yi the steping, Bagua the hands, Tai Chi Chuan the body movement. Will say in recent years have heard of some teaching just LHBF without doing the other system but not how i learned it.
Here is somthing else i remember from class an my instructore at the time. He said that, LHBF contianed the 13 Posture of tai chi, 8 postures of bagua, 5 elements the 6 harmony of hsing yi. That is how you can build LHBF. There is a little more to it but that is the basic structure to LHBF an that is why you will see many different forms of LHBF.
Sounds like LHBF is almost a mixed martial art (MMA) for the internal arts. I think if I remember rightly that Dr.Yang Jwing-Ming teaches it? He is an execellent resource for books and information making styles more accessible. I would love to take a class or two to see what its like. The closest tai chi class I can get is a 'yang' traditional style from the phillipines with a hint of Chen. I am not joking! How can they call it traditional yang with that lineage?
Dr. Yang Jwing-MingHis hsing yi book is actually another guy in it that is the master in Hsing Yi an Tai Chi, Bagua is a person that also taught his own daughter LHBF Grandmaster Shou-Yu Liang. He has a series of both books an tapes out both him an his daughter Helen Liang. They do a different system of LHBF than i do.
Well I guess Yang style comes from Chen style, so sometimes people look to the Chen style as an authoratitive source as well. And I think martial artists have been mixing things up, playing about with bits and pieces here and there and testing what works since time began. Every generation does things a bit differently. I think that in itself could be called traditional.
A short clip of LHBF. The downward thrusting angle is important in executing the move: http://www.liuhebafa.com.hk/mov2.html The website was built by students learning LHBF here in Hong Kong, not by our teacher. Still in Chinese only. Films were taken by mobile phones. Instruction demos shown are also very simple and elementary. Good LHBF teachers are hard to find and we estimated that there are only a handful around worldwide. Not sure if you can find one in UK. LHBF is a fighting form and you can test if he is a good LHBF teacher by testing his fighting skills. Forget those who promote LHBF as a health exercise. By the way, I am so sad that my teacher is moving to USA end of this year!
Here is a Liu He Ba Fa in youtube, you might find interesting again it is someone view on how to combine tai chi, hsing yi, and bagua. I am to assume so this is what the person thought it should look like. http://youtube.com/watch?v=NqPMSFcqqJE This is dirty ho! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Er4PFK4WQ9g&mode=related&search=
you just wanted to say 'dirty ho' didn't you.. and post some film fu huh? ps. that ain't bagua either.
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Liu he ba fa classes Hi. I know this is an old thread but I have only just seen it. I teach Liu he ba fa classes every week at my martial art centre in Accrington, not far from Manchester. We are also about to begin a monthly session teaching more principle detail with myself and my friend from Harrogate. We are both indoor student of master hui kit wah from HK. In fact he is here in the UK right now. His lineage stems from grandmaster Wu. I may be too late to the party with this info but if there is still any interest out there give me a shout....
Hi, yes I'm still interested but Accrington is a bit far to come for a session - as I'm based just outside of Gloucester these days - if you are thinking of running any weekend courses that would be most interesting...
Liuhebafa Hi again. Such a shame I didn't see this post a couple of weeks back! Master hui has been teaching awesome his internal power methods in seminars all month, but his last date is tomorrow in Harrogate. He flys back to Hk on Monday. We should keep in touch for the next time. If you are on Facebook you can join our group at northern dragons martial arts academy for seminar updates. He won't be in UK until next year now. But our monthly sessions will be 3hrs so may be worth the time? Otherwise I will try keep in touch! Regards Dave
