Does this sound familiar guys? 進似追風箭、退似雷電閃、走步須靈活、出手似雲煙 Advance like a wind chasing arrow, retreat like the flash of thunder and lightning, steps must be nimble, hands attack like the misty clouds.
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This thread is amazing and i dont even understand half of it , its very intresting to see different opinions to what the lau gar terms actualy mean. John
yes these are said to be quotes of how a lau gar is embodied “Attack as fast as a wind-chasing arrow, and withdraw as quick as a flash of lightening. Steps must be clever, hands move like smoke and cloud. Fingers out like spider’s legs, body hunches and straightens like a prawn’s back. Short bridge, small horse stance ensures powerful short range strikes. also found these as some forms, never heard of the myself however (apart from sabre and staff)?!?! ” Some of the famous advanced forms are, Large Sky Moving Form, Small Sky Moving Form, Ten-Fist Form, Geese Form (Palm form?), Eight Picture Kung, Liu Family Five Element Fist, Liu Family Staff, and Liu Family Saber.
Whats this from UK LG syllabus (5th degree)? Bac Keink Kung Could this be 'Eight Picture Kung' as in list above. Don't many styles have a version of this?
http://www.stafford-lau-gar.co.uk/association/syllabus.html There's a list of sashes there, it has some of the terminology. There are other sites that I found a while ago using the search "lau gar syllabus" on Google. Some have more than others.
Great thread guys, but... ...I cant believe everyone is happy to finish there without the remaining lau gar sets!!!! They seem to be left out of the official Lau site too. What about... advanced sword set - Ciun fun daarn do? double butterfly knives - Cern Woo Dip Do? bak ging gung (already done) tiger fork - ? Quando v Cane Shield & sword - ? spear - ? ps - respect to "Thomas Fist" - as demonstrated at the summer course!
Kay boon sau fa --> Gei Boon Sau Faat --> 基本手法 --> Basic Hand methods Jorn Sau --> Jong Sau --> 樁手 --> Post hands Charp Choi --> Chaap Choi --> 插捶 --> Thrusting punch Gee yau bok gaik --> Gee Yau Bok Gik --> 自由搏擊 --> Free sparring/fighting. Lin wan tak fa --> Lin Wan Tek Faat --> 連環踢法 --> Continuous kicking methods Far Kuin --> Faa Kuen --> 花拳 --> Flower fist Fai Loong Gee --> Fei Lung Zi --> 飛龍指 --> Flying Dragon fingers Sup Sarn Sau --> Sup Saan Sau --> 十散手 --> Ten Separate Hands (actually 10 discrete hand/leg drills/exercises) Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuin --> Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuen --> 劉家六合拳 --> Lau Gar Six Harmonies Fist (traditionally the 6 Harmonies are the coordinated linking of the 6 points: heel, knee, hip/waist, shoulder, elbow and wrist. Lau Gar harmonises 3 internal and 3 external asects) Bac Pye Jurn --> Baat Paai Zoeng --> 八排掌 --> Palms of the Baat Paai (8 Rows/Lines) Mountain 八排山) Chiun Sum Toi --> Chyun Sum Tui --> 穿心腿 --> Heart Penetrating Kick Lau Gar Darn Dough --> Lau Gar Daan Do --> 劉家單刀 --> Lau Gar single sabre Lau Gar Soar Hou Kwun --> Lau Gar Sor Hau Gwun --> 劉家鎖喉棍 --> Lau Gar throat locking staff Kwun Jorn Doi Chark - Gwun Jor Doi Chaak --> 棍阻對拆 Cern Woo Dip Do - Seung Woo Dip Do --> 雙蝴蝶刀 --> Double Butterfly Knives. Actually more poetic if it's called Woo Dip Seung Do, 蝴蝶雙刀 Bak Ging Gung --> Baat Ging Gung --> 八勁功 --> Eight Powers Practice Fu Chaar --> 虎叉 --> Tiger Fork Note that I've changed the character for "chaak" in Gwun Jor Doi Chaak.
I found these in some old stuff I had... 3rd degree Chûn Foun Dô Fa - Sword set I seem to remember Master Yau mentioning it translates as whirlwind sword or something like???? ====================================== 5th degree Di Dô Doi Tan Pye - Quando v cane shield and sword? Wooy Ceun Cheung - Spear set? Not sure of the actual translations here though. ---------------------------------------------- Nearly done!
Kay boon sau fa --> Gei Boon Sau Faat --> 基本手法 --> Basic Hand methods Jorn Sau --> Jong Sau --> 樁手 --> Post hands Charp Choi --> Chaap Choi --> 插捶 --> Thrusting punch Gee yau bok gaik --> Gee Yau Bok Gik --> 自由搏擊 --> Free sparring/fighting. Lin wan tak fa --> Lin Wan Tek Faat --> 連環踢法 --> Continuous kicking methods Far Kuin --> Faa Kuen --> 花拳 --> Flower fist Fai Loong Gee --> Fei Lung Zi --> 飛龍指 --> Flying Dragon fingers Sup Sarn Sau --> Sup Saan Sau --> 十散手 --> Ten Separate Hands (actually 10 discrete hand/leg drills/exercises) Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuin --> Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuen --> 劉家六合拳 --> Lau Gar Six Harmonies Fist (traditionally the 6 Harmonies are the coordinated linking of the 6 points: heel, knee, hip/waist, shoulder, elbow and wrist. Lau Gar harmonises 3 internal and 3 external asects) Bac Pye Jurn --> Baat Paai Zoeng --> 八排掌 --> Palms of the Baat Paai (8 Rows/Lines) Mountain 八排山) Chiun Sum Toi --> Chyun Sum Tui --> 穿心腿 --> Heart Penetrating Kick Lau Gar Darn Dough --> Lau Gar Daan Do --> 劉家單刀 --> Lau Gar single sabre Lau Gar Soar Hou Kwun --> Lau Gar Sor Hau Gwun --> 劉家鎖喉棍 --> Lau Gar throat locking staff Kwun Jorn Doi Chark - Gwun Jor Doi Chaak --> 棍阻對拆 Cern Woo Dip Do - Seung Woo Dip Do --> 雙蝴蝶刀 --> Double Butterfly Knives. Actually more poetic if it's called Woo Dip Seung Do, 蝴蝶雙刀 Bak Ging Gung --> Baat Ging Gung --> 八勁功 --> Eight Powers Practice Lau Gar Pa Fa --> Lau Gar Paa Faat --> 劉家扒法 --> Tiger Fork form
Have you heard in person what these terms sounds like? e.g. Chûn Foun Dô Fa - Sword set = soon foong do faat But the "do" is a sabre not a sword (gim). Di Dô Doi Tan Pye - Quando v cane shield and sword? Wooy Ceun Cheung - Spear set? Don't know about the last two. Is "Di Do" the same as "Gwan do" as used by "Gwan Gung" the red faced martial deity? I think "Tan Pye" (tung pai) just refers to the cane shield, the sword doesn't seem to be mentioned. The spear set sounds like "returning something", maybe returning spring? (wui chun).
Sorry - not sure of the pronunciation or meaning for the 5th degree stuff so no clues there. I just happened to write them down a while ago. for the third - It could well have been soon foong. Im sure it meant whirlwind but I cant see a similar looking cantonese word. We get the word taiphoon from cantonese I believe. Isnt there a similar word like siun foong? Is it the same as the siun tek - spinning/whirlwind kick. ....
Yeah, typhoon is "toi fung" in Cantonese. "Soon fung" does indeed mean whirlwind. So is it a sabre (like in daan do) or long sword that is used?
Kay boon sau fa --> Gei Boon Sau Faat --> 基本手法 --> Basic Hand methods Jorn Sau --> Jong Sau --> 樁手 --> Post hands Charp Choi --> Chaap Choi --> 插捶 --> Thrusting punch Gee yau bok gaik --> Gee Yau Bok Gik --> 自由搏擊 --> Free sparring/fighting. Lin wan tak fa --> Lin Wan Tek Faat --> 連環踢法 --> Continuous kicking methods Far Kuin --> Faa Kuen --> 花拳 --> Flower fist Fai Loong Gee --> Fei Lung Zi --> 飛龍指 --> Flying Dragon fingers Sup Sarn Sau --> Sup Saan Sau --> 十散手 --> Ten Separate Hands (actually 10 discrete hand/leg drills/exercises) Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuin --> Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuen --> 劉家六合拳 --> Lau Gar Six Harmonies Fist (traditionally the 6 Harmonies are the coordinated linking of the 6 points: heel, knee, hip/waist, shoulder, elbow and wrist. Lau Gar harmonises 3 internal and 3 external asects) Bac Pye Jurn --> Baat Paai Zoeng --> 八排掌 --> Palms of the Baat Paai (8 Rows/Lines) Mountain 八排山) Chiun Sum Toi --> Chyun Sum Tui --> 穿心腿 --> Heart Penetrating Kick Lau Gar Darn Dough --> Lau Gar Daan Do --> 劉家單刀 --> Lau Gar single sabre Lau Gar Soar Hou Kwun --> Lau Gar Sor Hau Gwun --> 劉家鎖喉棍 --> Lau Gar throat locking staff Kwun Jorn Doi Chark - Gwun Jor Doi Chaak --> 棍阻對拆 Cern Woo Dip Do - Seung Woo Dip Do --> 雙蝴蝶刀 --> Double Butterfly Knives. Actually more poetic if it's called Woo Dip Seung Do, 蝴蝶雙刀 Bak Ging Gung --> Baat Ging Gung --> 八勁功 --> Eight Powers Practice Lau Gar Pa Fa --> Lau Gar Paa Faat --> 劉家扒法 --> Tiger Fork form Chûn Foun Dô Fa --> Suen Fung Do Faat --> 旋風刀法 --> Whirlwind Sabre set
Di dao Tang pye is Big Knife V cane Shild (done with a butterfly Knife) 5 animals fist is Ng ying kuin Wooy ceun chung is retuning spining spear (i think)
Kay boon sau fa --> Gei Boon Sau Faat --> 基本手法 --> Basic Hand methods Jorn Sau --> Jong Sau --> 樁手 --> Post hands Charp Choi --> Chaap Choi --> 插捶 --> Thrusting punch Gee yau bok gaik --> Gee Yau Bok Gik --> 自由搏擊 --> Free sparring/fighting. Lin wan tak fa --> Lin Wan Tek Faat --> 連環踢法 --> Continuous kicking methods Far Kuin --> Faa Kuen --> 花拳 --> Flower fist Fai Loong Gee --> Fei Lung Zi --> 飛龍指 --> Flying Dragon fingers Sup Sarn Sau --> Sup Saan Sau --> 十散手 --> Ten Separate Hands (actually 10 discrete hand/leg drills/exercises) Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuin --> Lau Gar Luk Hup Kuen --> 劉家六合拳 --> Lau Gar Six Harmonies Fist (traditionally the 6 Harmonies are the coordinated linking of the 6 points: heel, knee, hip/waist, shoulder, elbow and wrist. Lau Gar harmonises 3 internal and 3 external asects) Bac Pye Jurn --> Baat Paai Zoeng --> 八排掌 --> Palms of the Baat Paai (8 Rows/Lines) Mountain 八排山) Chiun Sum Toi --> Chyun Sum Tui --> 穿心腿 --> Heart Penetrating Kick Lau Gar Darn Dough --> Lau Gar Daan Do --> 劉家單刀 --> Lau Gar single sabre Lau Gar Soar Hou Kwun --> Lau Gar Sor Hau Gwun --> 劉家鎖喉棍 --> Lau Gar throat locking staff Kwun Jorn Doi Chark - Gwun Jor Doi Chaak --> 棍阻對拆 Cern Woo Dip Do - Seung Woo Dip Do --> 雙蝴蝶刀 --> Double Butterfly Knives. Actually more poetic if it's called Woo Dip Seung Do, 蝴蝶雙刀 Bak Ging Gung --> Baat Ging Gung --> 八勁功 --> Eight Powers Practice Lau Gar Pa Fa --> Lau Gar Paa Faat --> 劉家耙法 --> Tiger Fork form Chûn Foun Dô Fa --> Suen Fung Do Faat --> 旋風刀法 --> Whirlwind Sabre set Di dao Tang pye --> Dai Do doi Tung Paai --> 大刀對籐牌 --> Big Sabre vs. Rattan Shield Ng ying kuin --> Ng Ying Kuen --> 五形拳 --> 5 animals fist set Wooy ceun chung --> Wui Suen Cheung --> 回旋槍 --> Retuning Spinning Spear Gee Yau sau faat --> 自由手法 --> Free hand movement Note that I've changed the character for "Paa" in the Tiger Fork form. EDIT: Added "Free hand movement" on request.
