So as not to further derail the original thread and because I wanted to respond to Naughty Knight's and Sgt. Majors comments I thought I'd make a new thread. I don't anticipate a particularly long and drawn out discussion on this because I doubt anyone is likely to change their views but still... I agree that's not. Stating for instance that you like Irish women wouldn't be racist so I don't see why stating you like Korean women should be. Even extending this to 'Asian' I still think it's a fairly harmless thing to say. We all have prefences afterall and so what if you find people from a particular ethnic background attractive that's your business. You could argue, if you felt so inclined, that someone for whom 'race' was an important factor was perhaps a bit shallow but I personally don't care if someone else wants to be shallow- it's there life. The bit that madmonk and others including myself tend to find a bit racist or is the bit where you said: Your right it is a novelty to a Korean when a non-Korean speaks Korean but I can guarantee you that it is more of a novelty with a white person than a non-white. You seem to be making this very point as well so I'm not sure why your arguing with it. I know Asian people that speak other Asian languages and they generally aren't afforded as much interest because it isn't as unusual. As for speaking very good Korean... I'll take your word for it. If your 'fluent' after a year of not even properly learning then you must be pretty damn good or else you have an exaggerated view of your ability. As for insinuating that being White gives you some sort of advantage... your the one who brought that up! lol... you were the one pointing out that your unusual because your WHITE and you speak an Asian language. Your not being racist by pointing that out because it's true. That's not what people are taking issue with. It's your sugestion that because you are white and speak an Asian language every pretty Asian girl is immediately at your beck and call. The thing is as unusual as speaking an Asian language may be in the wider world I attend a university that specialises in Asian languages so practically everyone I know can speak one or usually two or more Asian languages. I also know a pretty large and varied group of Chinese, Thai, Japanese, Korean etc. etc. people because of this. And universally they and all language students are well aware of the people who use speaking a language as a way to pick up girls and tend to bracket them into a certain category which isn't as far removed from the middle aged sex tourists you mention. It's also fair to say a large amount of language students fall into this group and this includes some people who I count as good friends. I don't really like their attitude towards Asian women nor do most of the Asian women who I speak to but that doesn't make them horrible people. So your certainly not alone nor is it really something I give a flying crap about. It's your insinuation that purely speaking a language gives a white person immediate access to Asians thats distasteful. You can dress it up as much as you like but thats what your post came across as. Well for a start I'm not sure I completely agree with madmonk's opinion on the role of colonialism but that aside I said "the legacy of colonialism" which I would suspect the Asian admiration for Western culture might be related to. As I say attending a university full of people who are fascinated by Asian culture I don't know of anyone besides people interested in bedding women who would say they have 'Yellow fever'. As for your friend naming his film company after it, good for him, it has no bearing on anything except for the fact that your friend doesn't mind the term... neither apparently does Naughty Knight so it's not like everyone agrees on this. Also, as for being threatened what threat does Naughty Knight possibly pose? He's a guy from Australia with a self admitted Asian fetish and an apparently exaggerated sense of uniqueness because he speaks a bit of an Asian language. It's really not a threat to my way of life. I also don't think jealousy is an overriding concern for the individuals who are disagreeing with NK. I don't care what kind of girl NK goes out with... good for him she's hot... has no effect on me. What I and others are taking issue with is the silly comments about Asian girls being easy if you speak an Asian language.