fairness in all fairness, it seems that these grandmasters do make alot of mistakes. why would any master of a system invite somone into an asscoistion and not review any material. it doesn't make any sense. so exactly what happened here? did rash and gascon assume that the other reviewed the tape then 2 or 3 years later realize that neither had reviewed the tape of geary. if a master/grandmaster can not tell is someone deserves to be ranked 6th dan, or any other rank, then is the person really a master. if the karenzenpo group really heard alot of bad stories about geary, then why did you guys accept him and his rank without reviewing it. on the karenenzempo site they respond to geary. they do not mention that the reason he was in hawaii was to receive his professorship from the hawaiian international martial arts asscoiation/society. there are a few things missing from the story on the karenzenpo website.