Jesus Christ (real or not?)

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by Bozza Bostik, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. Endolphins

    Endolphins Valued Member

    It's easy to make assumptions and psychoanalyze or blame a messenger rather than to contemplate conflicting or challenging information and do with it as one will.

    Like I've said, forget what you know, look at something from a different angle, drop your pride, even if its just temporarily.

    So take it or leave it.

    I've said all I had to say

    I could be wrong I could be right, but you can't convince me it doesn't work or is garbage because I've been into this for years, and not just books, tapes, interviews, studies and papers but actually doing the wet-work, applying the knowledge and investigating further and coming to my own conclusions. Which are not rigid, but are willing to adapt and be flexible, lest the stagnation of rigidity crush my soul.

    I don't need to repeat myself.

    Figure it out on your own, I've just pointed and said, ''Hey check that out if you want to''.

    I'm going to go and enjoy this awesome Saturday.

    Peace ;)
  2. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Naked appeal to authority. This does not support your interpretation of QM.

    That's exactly what you've been doing. The difference is there's evidence on our side and movie trailers on yours.

    Yep, this is what every faith healer believes because confirmation bias is very, very real. That's the reason we have the scientific process and why it's so damn stringent.
  3. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    You broke my irony meter. I need a new irony meter. Please send me an irony meter.
  4. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    People like this . . . .

    They actually do exist. :jawdrop:
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Frankly I doubt it.....I think you THINK you know, and it's an honestly held conviction.....I just genuinely think you do not

    I dont mean the effect, I mean WHAT it is - as there is an extensive field of research looking into it and they still do not fully grasp it, the chances of you actually knowing is zero.

    When you dismiss it as "cannot be just placebo" you betray this fact
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2016
  6. 8limbs38112

    8limbs38112 Valued Member

    I'm skeptical of this comment. I need you to prove it.
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Which one of the three do you need him to prove and which burden of proof will satisfy each?
  8. 8limbs38112

    8limbs38112 Valued Member

    The fact that I have not posted any evidence YET, because I've been preoccupied with other things, does not mean that I don't have any. It just means you guys aren't very patient. See the other thread. It's up to Philosoraptor to choose where I even begin when it comes to evidence.
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I was referring to his irony meter - which part are you skeptical of?
  10. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    you're going to prove god? this should be interesting.

    you know what i would be more interested in? prove that zeus DOESN'T exist.
  11. 8limbs38112

    8limbs38112 Valued Member

    I'm not going to prove anything. I'm going to give Philosoraptor the evidence he asked for. It is up to you whether it is convincing enough for you or not. But I will say this. If it is not. Don't be a judge because according to the author who has a background in law, if it is not convincing enough for you, if you were a judge in a court room, the majority of criminals that have been found guilty by most judges and juries would most likely be set free with no charge if you were a judge.
  12. 8limbs38112

    8limbs38112 Valued Member

    and I'm paraphrasing big time.
  13. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    "according to the author" - my friend that is lawyer double speak at work and you have swallowed it....according to every lawyer their clients are innocent and their cases are watertight

    Not to rain on your enthusiasm parade, but this is not an auspicious start
  14. 8limbs38112

    8limbs38112 Valued Member

    Fair enough.
  15. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    That's a very polite way of putting it :)

    "He who loves practice without theory is like the sailor who boards ship without a rudder and compass and never knows where he may cast. ”

    - Leonardo da Vinci
  16. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    This is an appeal to authority. The evidence stands apart from the author and his qualifications - the burden of proof required to support Christianity is also much higher than it is to convict someone of a crime.
  17. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    actually, i was just trying to be funny with my zeus bit. sorry, apparently i was the only one that got it--dumb on me. lol

    i don't know what you're getting at with the judge and jury bit.

    it seems that faith helps you. yes? if so, i'm glad that you find faith useful and relevant in your daily live.

    i'm not a believer. i find that not-believing is useful and relevant in my life.

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