Internal Energy - Chi as a possibility of No Contact Combat

If low intelligence is not a barrier to no touch combat, then I invite you again to demonstrate your art against a komodo dragon.



Is reading comprehension not your strong suit, or were you deliberately misstating my point?

 

russiancombat:

Why did Kadochnikov want to distance himself from Starov, and why did he make it clear that Starov is not qualified to teach?

Why does Starov have "spetsnaz" in the title of his system? Did he ever serve with a spetsnaz unit?

 

You may be overestimating the intelligence difference here.

 

There is a difference of no touch in a distraction, but what is being pedaled, is a mystical force as example of supreme combat skill (no touch)


On another note, I have attended a few Pressure Point, Qi, and "No Touch", seminars, it is really sad to the trained eye to see so many get mesmerized and suckered. But, knowledge is power-I digress.

 

Agree completely

I've seen a demo or two on no touch and it is pretty sad, it seemed almost like a cult mentality. But I have been taken out by pressure points by my Taiji Shifu, Dr Yang, and my wife. That's what I get for marrying a TCM doc from China

 

Oh, I beseech, by no means that I am alluding to pressure points "not working". I rather state that they do not work all of the time, or on everyone "the exact same way"

Further, the study of it in a brief and costly seminar is more of a "ponytrick" or "circus act" than a long term study from someone qualified to teach/learn

 

I can't resist. I have to share this. Master Ken shows how to destroy an attacker with the "kill face". If you've not seen this funny web series then stop what you're doing and watch. At the very least watch this one, short episode where you will learn the most amazing martial art defense where you don't touch your opponent.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5edQQXMfQ&index=3&list=PL2FF995289A6FC7CD"]Enter The Dojo, Episode 5: Kill Face - YouTube[/ame]

 

Agreed, pressure points are not something you pick up in a seminar, they take time and study. Actually I don't really think you can pick much up at a seminar unless it is something you have already been working with.

 

"Spetsnaz" means Special Operation Units. Vadim starov did serve in spetsnaz unit. You can read it in his bio and see pictures. It's public.
http://www.systemaspetsnaz.com/systema-spetsnaz/systema-instructors

Kadochnikov does no contact combat as well. You can find his clips on Youtube. Vadim Starov as many others demonstrated the power of no contact combat. Everyone can do it.

No Contact is not a magic. It is a combination of knowledge of physical fighting + knowledge of human anatomy (mostly joins and how the brain gets the signals and gives back the specific reaction) + knowledge of psychology (NLP, effect mirror etc.) + Internal Energy (mediation and proper breathing).

Knowing how to deliver a strong punch might be enough with one opponent, but not with the other. Person have to know striking techniques, kicks, takedowns, defensive techniques, speed, reaction.. It all depend on the situation and on the opponent.

No contact combat is one of the "techniques or tools" that student can master and incorporate in his self-defense. No Contact combat includes words, destructive signals, the way you look at your opponent, ability to "capture his breath", his speed etc.

Unfortunately, Kadochnikov and Starov had mis-understanding about what to teach, where and how. Kadochnikov a great patriot. Russian combat is an art of Russian people and he didn't want to teach it abroad. Vadim Starov wanted to invite other teachers to the seminars, psychologists who can teach the "human reaction" (knowledge of body language is one of them, how to read your opponent gestures), specialists who teach anatomy of the mind and intellect for student to develop analytical ability and memory. Kadochnikov required everyone to know laws of physics and mechanics in order to come to his seminar and Vadim wanted to take all students. Vadim was at the stage where he wanted to expand the style and add his own approach to it. Vadim holds a great respect for Kadochnikov and grateful for his knowledge and skills in combat.

 

No contact combat is an unmitigated fraud with no proof outside of the liars and morons selling it and their even more moronic students. Try on someone who doesn't want to play make believe and it fails 100% of the time

That's a shoe I just crafted - does it fit you?

 

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHUfk5RpGk"]No Contact Combat[/ame]

 

Absolute fraud

 

I will take a stick and swing it and he can try and deflect me....I will even visit him in hospital afterwards to show no hard feelings

You believe in this crap you are an idiot - no exceptions

 

Apart from his own word for it do you have any proof he was in a special forces unit? There have been many people proven to have fraudulently claimed to have served in special forces from around the world, more than just his word is needed as proof.

Can you please elaborate on how 'meditation and proper breathing' constitute 'internal energy' and exactly what 'internal energy' is? If Vadim starov has studied any 'physics and mechanics' surely he must have an explaintions for this, something that has eluded scientists who have tried to research this topic.

No contact combat is not possible. Awareness, deescalation, distraction and body language are usefull self defence tools but are not actually combat. I am unsure what you mean by 'destructive signals' so can you clarify what this means please. 'Stealing his breath' is another fuzzy term, do you mean winding your opponent or forcing the air from his lung or something altogether different (sucking it out ) ?

 

Only 1 way to describe this type of stuff:-

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjPlhb4f9P8"]Frank Zappa-Cosmik Debris - YouTube[/ame]

The mystery man came over
And he said "I'm outta sight!"
He said for a nominal service charge
I could reach nirvana tonight
If I was ready, willing and able
To pay him his regular fee
He would drop all the rest of
His pressing affairs and devote
His attention to me

But I said "Look here brother
who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Look here brother, don't waste your time on me"

The mystery man got nervous
And he fidget around a bit
He reached in the pocket of his mystery robe
And he whipped out a shaving kit
Now I thought it was a razor
And a can of foaming goo
But he told me right then when the top popped open
There was nothin' his box won't do
With the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said "You might not believe this, little fella
But it'll cure your asthma too"

And I said "Look here brother
Who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now what kind of a guru are you, anyway?
Look here brother, don't waste your time on me"
*(Don't waste your time)*

"I've got troubles of my own", I said
"And you can't help me out
So, take your meditations and your preparations
And ram it up your snout!"
"But I got the crystal ball", he said
And held it to the ligh
So I snatched it, all away from him
And I showed him how to do it right

I wrapped a newspaper 'round my head
So I looked like I was deep
I said some mumbo-jumbo, then
I told him he was going to sleep
I robbed his rings and pocke****ch
And everything else I found
I had that sucker hypnotized
He couldn't even make a sound
I proceeded to tell him his future, then
As long as he was hanging around
I said "The price of meat has just gone up
And your old lady has just gone down!"

And I said "Look here brother-who you
Jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
Don't you know, you could make more money as a butcher?
So, don't waste your time on me"
Don't waste it, don't waste your time on me

 

I just realised that all this 'no-touch' ki/chi tosh is remarkably similar to the twaddle spouted by politicians of pretty much all persuasions:- all talk and promise, thoroughly unfulfilled in reality.

 

Hi 'aaradia',

It probably wouldn't work because the foam in sparring gear contains micro-particles of barium oxide that at a quantum level would negate the energy being used against you....

(I just made that up but it sounds like a usable excuse to me).

 

Makes more sense than any of the supporting evidence put forth so far