Interesting article on Manny, Filipino Boxing, and Panuntukan

Discussion in 'Filipino Martial Arts' started by shootodog, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    Interesting article:

    A look at the history of boxing in the Philippines (2008)

  2. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    There are some items here that could be disputed. For example, the "empty hands" aspects of FMA could have and most likely have been influenced by filipino silat and kuntao. "Kali" was a term unknown to us until the group in Stockton started using the name. Over here in the PI, we frequently use the terms "Arnis", "Escrima", "Estocada", and "Silat".
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2014
  3. Guitar Nado

    Guitar Nado Valued Member

    Thanks for posting this! I have been told that the hook punch in western boxing really originally came from Filipinos who added it in to the western boxing they learned, and it just sort of stuck. Have you heard anything like that?

    I realize of course lots of styles could probably lay claim to a similar punch of course...
  4. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    bolo punches are generally attributed to filipinos.

    bolo punch
  5. Guitar Nado

    Guitar Nado Valued Member

    So I watched the second video a few times (first one is blocked on youtube) - and I think I mostly get it. I searched for a few more and found this:

    [ame=""]The Bolo Punch: Bayani Warrior Filipino Boxing (Suntukan) - YouTube[/ame]

    which seems a bit different - sort of a hammerfist in this video.

    Interesting stuff that I need to investigate more.
  6. ap Oweyn

    ap Oweyn Ret. Supporter

    Yep, it's a hammerfist. It's a way of translating the forehand/backhand slashes of stick- or bladework to the empty hand. The standard jab/cross would be equivalent to the thrusting/stabbing motions of stick/dagger/sword.
  7. ryan4nayr

    ryan4nayr New Member

    That article mentioned "chopping punches", I can't think of a closer over-simplification into hooks and bolo punches.

    No matter the origins/cross-influences of Western pugilism and Filipino suntukan, the similarities of body mechanics between the two is, I think, relevant to FMA. Thanks for the post!
  8. donb

    donb restless spirit


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