Inner power and superhuman abilities

Discussion in 'Silat' started by haidarfarhan, May 5, 2015.

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  1. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    Silat "Merpati Putih" is one of indonesian martial arts
    in addition to teaching physical technique, Merpati Putih also teach non-physical techniques like Inner Power technique, Vibration technique, ect.

    Silat for blind people (youtube video) :


    Explanation of vibration techniques (youtube video) :

    seeing the objects and colors without using the eyes

    less than 1 month training result
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  2. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    this martial arts is very helpful for the blind
  3. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    So are Judo and/ or grappling arts.
  4. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    But posting videos about pseudoscience isn't.
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  5. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    and then what ? do you think this video is fake because science can't proof it yet ?
  6. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Mate. I've been to Indo and tried Silat first-hand there. There are maybe a handful of schools that take a realistic view to their training, while the rest make all sorts of wild shamanistic and supernatural claims.

    Some of the stories gurus and pendekars tried to sell me included a talking keris, being possessed, turning into a tiger, and curing blindness with their thoughts. It's all bollocks.

    Thus, I will treat this thread with all the seriousness it deserves.

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  7. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    No, I think it's fake because science has already disproved it (bold mine):

    "In the preliminary test, done under the conditions chosen by the claimants, the results for 100 percent correct. At that point, proper blindfolds were applied to conduct the formal preliminary tests. To quote Professor Sohl, the "subject voiced repeated concern about the blindfold and was clearly concerned about it. After over 45 minutes of delays, he managed to free the blindfold enough to see (which is caught completely on video tape). The clearly-loose blindfold was reapplied at which point the subject became distressed again. Finally, after many more delays the subject ran the test . . ." After a series of delays totaling over an hour, the results were three correct out of 19 trials, while the odds by chance alone would have called for 3.2 correct.


    You may wish to go to, the web page of
    I. G. M. P., and see just how much they will charge to teach blind people to see. It amounts to $116,500 for the full course. To quote their advertisement:

    Objects around us generate vibrations and ILMU GETARAN MERPATI PUTIH relies on our innate ability to detect the vibrations of objects nearby. This ability or sense can be improved by practice.

    Well, 20 years of practice doesn't seem to have improved the Indonesian practitioner who performed for the preliminary test in Utah. He did no better than a Chinese fortune cookie. And just why didn't the "Master" of these performers allow himself to be tested? There has to be a very good reason for that, though the believers will reason around it. This group is very similar to the Mexicans I tested some years ago on Japanese television, in that they, too, claim that they can teach the blind to see. This is a cruel hoax and deception. We at the JREF are very distressed to know that these things are going on, and that we are essentially powerless to stop them."

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  8. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    do you even watch the video ? 20 years of training ? LOL

    Merpati Putih student only take 1 years learning vibration technique to get ability of feeling the objects, colors, distance, ect.

    watch this video from Merpati Putih student :

    Objects detection and shooting a target with airgun using blindfold

    color detection


    the more strong a silat warrior, the more humble he is, and our master don't want to showoff for uploading video on youtube

  9. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    do you even know how many types of silat in indonesia ?

    Inner power / chi / qigong look like same, buat if you look the power of supernatural, heriloom keris, possessed something is totally different, the technique is also different, the power is also different
  10. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I know that it fell apart as a pack of lies under proper conditions (ie. when you remove the ability to cheat). Do you know why that is?

    Please stop spamming the videos, they prove nothing.

    The shame is, I'm sure there are good things about it - balance, confidence etc.. Shame it has to be sold as another chi cult money-spinner :(
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  11. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

  12. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Now my feelings are hurt because I don't think you read my posts anymore :cry:

    They already did. Didn't make it past the prelims.
  13. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    if you think you can disprove Merpati Putih technique, come and prove it

    you never can disprove about inner power from human capability, because the human capability consists of two, physical and non-physical, and the TECHNOLOGY NEVER can disprove the non-physical of human capabiliy
  14. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    You miss the point.

    You have to prove it works.

    So far it seems that they have failed to do that under neutral and controlled conditions, so it's likely just nonsense that's sold for no other reason than to defraud people.

    You should take a good look at yourself and why you are peddling this stuff.
  15. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    do you even watch the first video ? i created this thread because i want share something helpful for the readers who have blindness family or friends

    what for i must prove it to you ? to get your money ? NO !!! i dont need your money dude

    if you need, you can check it yourself by visiting or doing testing

    if you live in USA, you can contact Merpati Putih school in USA

    if you dont belive in this stuff, just visit and do test, prove it your self with your own eyes, not your finger in this threads
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  16. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    It failed under controlled conditions.

    Do you understand what that means?
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  17. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Yes I did.

    Cool, so it doesn't cost anything then?

    5000 miles is a bit far for me to test it out...

    Now, the weird/funny thing is, I did once have a hard-to-explain experience where it seemed that I could see through my eyelids (doesn't mean I think I did)... but I still think you guys are scamming people for money.

    Of course, that doesn't mean that you don't believe it yourself. Could you tell us some of your personal experiences with MP?

    From the website you linked to (bold mine):

    "Peace, Understanding, Acceptance and Helpfulness are found throughout every MP Member of every rank and as we become more aware and gain experience, these attributes increase dramatically. Typically, a Member must remain in each of the basic levels (Dasar 1 thru Balik 2) for at least 6 months, with Senior Levels (Kombinasi 1 thru Kesegeran) requiring a minimum of 1 year’s experience before testing can take place."

    Does that mean that one can become a senior-level martial artist in a year?
  18. ap Oweyn

    ap Oweyn Ret. Supporter


    So far, what you've done is post a series of videos that serve as advertisements for your school, style, and teacher. When those videos were scrutinized rather than welcomed with open arms, you claimed that science could neither confirm nor deny this power that you nevertheless claim is real. People have cited studies which you have rejected. So, on the one hand, you tell us that your claims aren't subject to analysis because your style defies explanation. On the other hand, a study with some actual scientific rigour to it, that you dismiss out of hand.

    All of which accumulates to make you an increasing liability to your style. If your master is really interested in promoting what he does, the pair of you should really rethink your strategy. You're not winning anyone over with the current approach.
  19. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Utter stupidity

    It's fake - it has been shown to be fake and every time it is tested it will continue to be fake

    You have put forth ZERO to counter the objections and are instead wailing like a petulant child
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  20. haidarfarhan

    haidarfarhan Valued Member

    Indonesian army have been learning Silat "Merpati Putih" since 1963 till now

    this thread is about human potential, not supernatural things

    if you do not believe this, I understand because you are western

    Merpati Putih-Indonesian army
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