When you notice someone who is being in your " learned opinion " incorrect ,an idiot , ridiculous or pushy how do you make this apparent to them without yourself being considered any of the above
Extreme sarcasm. It makes you sound intelligent and arrogant, and you can get a big point across without talking much or knowing any of your facts. ie: Person A: "I love Bush, we should be at war in Iraq" Me: "Oh that's a real good idea" Person B: "I hate Bush, we should pull out of Iraq" Me: "Oh that's a real good idea" If you wait and use that approach on a topic you know a lot about, then you can bust out a lot of facts and make them think twice about questioning you in the future, it's why I remain such an excellent debator
lick your finger and stick it in their ear... itll weird them out so they wont ever approach you again.. they might yell things at you and talk behind your back but that shouldnt matter..
I fail to see the point in that? it'd look like you're just trying to pick an argument to me if you responsed with the same thing to two opposite statements.
But it some cases it won't help. What if the person doesn't understand it or doesn't want to understand it? You might achieve a counter-effect. I've seen it happen.
In what context? If its on MAP, don't actually tell them, because personal attacks get you beat with the ban stick. If its real life, you can deal with it more or less how you like. If they really are a grade A idiot, it shouldn't be too hard to trip them up and make them look a fool. People are allowed to be incorrect, sometimes who's right in an arguement is relative. Being pushy and even ridiculous is forgiveable too.
Sometimes you just can't make it apparent because they don't want to see it. We all have issues we aren't going to budge on and you will never convince people otherwise. Sometimes you just have to walk away, shaking your head.
I usually ignore them and let them get on with whatever it is they're doing. They'll see the error of their ways, sooner or later.
You can try to have a rational discussion and show them in a nice friendly way. Of course rationallity is something that escapes some people and they will continue to twist everything so that it doesn't matter what you say they are right, no matter what... Those people are not worth wasting your time on....
I sometimes wonder if you don't get through to them even if you don't know it. We have all seen someone make an inflammatory or insulting statement on one of the threads, get jumped on for it and then never comment again. Maybe with MAP'ers just stating it plain that the person is rude or insulting they (well some of them at least ) get the idea. They may not be big enough to come back and apologize or explain what they meant but at least they stop being rude and insulting.
There's the time-tested "endless questions" method. When a person makes a statement, ask him/her what the reasons were behind said statement. When said person replies, repeat process until the person starts talking in circles (which you can call em on), until the person contradicts a previous statement (call em on this, too) or when the statement loses all traces of logical reasoning (which you can have a field day with). It may take a while, but the progressive disection of one's misguided statement is an effective method of making them realize their mistakes. Or, you know, make them back into a corner covering their ears singing "la la la" for the rest of eternity. Either way, they stop bothering you
