Hostage Siege in Sydney - Militant Islam rears it's head

Lets hope this can get resolved with no loss of life. At the moment they think the number of hostages is 10 staff and 30 public in the Lindt Cafe in Sydney.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30474089

http://www.bbc.com/news/world/australia/

 

Without loss of life? I hope they put a bullet in each one of their domes.

 

And make them martyr?
Could be just as deadly.

 

Don't care. Let it expose the rest of them that would take it as martyrdom and inspire them to do something, so they can die too.

And yeah, I understand that it might cause innocent people to die. I would be saying the same thing if it were me and my own that were the next target. I have no tolerance for this crap. Some people just need to die.

 

I feel the same way Ero, my friends call my cynical for doing so but that's because they like to hold onto ideals that won't happen. I wholeheartedly believe that if you're willing to take the life of somebody else for your religion or ideas you should be willing to give up yours. In any case, we'd be helping them get to heaven and their virgins faster.

I do hope the innocents do get out unscathed though. Not intending to make it a religious debate but personally I believe that if their ticker is up, then its up. Hopefully this hostage situation gets resolved without innocent casualties and that the highly trained individuals that the Australians send in don't get hurt either.

 

Feels like the rise of ISIL/ISIS/IS has led us into a new era of homegrown terrorism. Hard to argue this incident isn't related to what's going on in Iraq/Syria (black flag and all). Just hope it comes to a peaceful resolution (for the hostages, not the hostage taker - hope the last thing that goes through his/her mind is a 5.56mm round) and nobody ends up with their head in a basket on national tv.

 

Twitter is broadcasting several "selfies" that some self-absorbed scumbags have been taking at the scene. Those individuals are a disgrace to the human race.

 

I find it a bit strange that the barbaric actions of ISIS inspires anyone to follow their lead. I would hope that more people are repelled by them than attracted by them.

yes, hopefully the hostages all come out of this unharmed. As for the hostage takers, ideally it would be the best punishment if they are taken alive and spend the rest of their lives in captivity, regretting their actions. But if they end up getting killed then they have brought it on themselves.

 

More people are repelled than inspired hence why this particular incident is the work of a lone individual.

But sadly the actions of jihadists in Iraq/Syria do motivate a few crackpots on the fringes of society. The gunman in Sydney ordered the hostages to hold up the wrong flag and has since asked for the same one used by IS.

 

Dead terrorists give up no accomplices. Let's hope this ends peacefully.

 

That's a good point.

 

Fine. Question him, then shoot him.

 

I don't believe in giving terrorists what they want.

 

I got a horrible feeling live terrorist don't give up accomplices either.

 

Oh, I didn't mean kill him.

At least not right away. Be interesting to see how much they want martyrdom after getting a couple of .45 rounds through their kneecaps.

 

It happens a lot more frequently than when they're dead. And a lifetime in a cell is a much bigger deterrent to these lunatics than a bullet.

 

Apparently he's out on bail for 47 sex offences? Possible his motivation isn't religion

 

This is supposed to be the hostage taker:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

 

Have any demands been made thus far that we're aware of?