Hapkido Check In

Discussion in 'Hapkido' started by Thomas, Sep 23, 2003.

  1. Dr.Syn

    Dr.Syn Valued Member

    Thanks Bruce. When training or demonstrating a technique, I have asked my Master not to put me down. As he too sufferes from previous injuries he understands all too well.
  2. altc

    altc Valued Member

    Hi all. Im fairly new to the forum but thought I would check in here with other Hapkido practitioners and say hi.

    After I got to black belt in TKD after five years I went looking for another system and found Hapkido. Loved it. I trained under Geoff Booth in Australia for about four years. I was fortunate during that time to be able to attend a full time five day seminar with the founder (I know, others will say it was Yong Sul Choi...) Ji Han Jae. He was truly amazing... Dont know what to say... Also at the seminar was Master Young T. Freda. Awesome as well. Great experience.

    I left Hapkido to pursue Filipino martial arts under Ray Floro and brazilian Jiu Jitsu as well which I do both to this day, however I will always have a soft spot for Hapkido. The three principles of water, non resistence and circular movement are very profound I feel and see those principles applied in many effective techniques and tactics.

    Hi to all of you Hapkido practitioners and I look forward to chatting with you all in the future. Happy training!
  3. hkdtkdhk

    hkdtkdhk Banned Banned


    I have dan ranking in World Traditional Hapkido Alliance (W.T.H.A.), I am also joining Heuk Choo Kwan Hapkido, at the Korean Headquarters. I have been studying hapkido for over 20 years, as well as tae kwon do and kumdo for the same time period.

    Will always be a student. Hoshin everyone.
  4. hapkichick

    hapkichick New Member

    Been training for about six years now. 2nd dan Hapkido!! :)
  5. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    Welcome to MAP in case no one has already said so :' )

    Hope you enjoy the site!!

  6. mrmg06

    mrmg06 Valued Member

    Hello all,

    I'm a 1st degree black belt under Master Daniel T. Rogers of the Chun Ki Association. I've been training in Hapkido since '93 and I dabble in a little bit in Judo, TKD, Karate, Silat, Pekiti Tirsia, etc.
  7. crepscher

    crepscher New Member

    Just wanted to stop by and say hello. I am In Connecticut and Have been studying Combat Hapkido for a few years now. I recently earned my 1st Dan and I have started learning Heuk Choo Kwan Hapkido. Glad I found this forum!

  8. Dr.Syn

    Dr.Syn Valued Member

    Trying to confirm a rumor I heard through the grapevine. This rumor stated that there are big changes in the Kido and some high ranking Grandmasters were booted out or left on their own..Anyone??
  9. JTMS

    JTMS Valued Member

    Uhhh...... no comment!
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2011
  10. asphalt666

    asphalt666 Valued Member

    Hey all, i'm a blue belt in wtf tkd and now white in Hoshinkido Hapkido, i felt that the two nights a week were unsufficient to my martial art training so i added hoshinkido to my training and now here i am!
  11. Simon

    Simon Moved on Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Welcome to MAP.
  12. JTMS

    JTMS Valued Member

    And welcome to Hapkido!!! :)
  13. Damyon

    Damyon New Member

    Hello! I've been learning Hapkido in Norwich with the World Koong Joong Hap Ki Do Assoc. under Master Trevor Rant, for about 3 years and recently gained my green belt. I'm kind of fat, unfit and forty (and really feel it in class). I started because my daughter (then 7) started going to a kids class and it looked more fun to join in than watch her through the window, now my wife and older daughter also train.
    Lovely to meet you all
  14. Bruce W Sims

    Bruce W Sims Banned Banned

    Though I can be accused of prejudice, I think you have really cornered the best that MA has to offer. If you had selected Soccer or Baseball you would need to sit on the sidelines while your child participates and then talk about THEIR experience afterwards. The way you have it fixed people can COMPARE experiences which I think makes for greater bonding (IMHO). Challenges like training for an up-coming test takes on a whole new perspective when the testing individual now has the family behind them in the effort. Good Choice!!

    Best Wishes,

  15. Damyon

    Damyon New Member

    It's really interesting to read about everyone's training experiences. At the club I attend we have a really varied curriculum including striking, throwing, locks and breakaway, breakfalling (including jumping over people), sparing, pattern and breaking techniques. We are visited regularly by Grandmaster W.K. Hong (9th Dan) who is now based in Switzerland. I think it is the variety that appeals to me you can find techniques that suit and others that really challenge you (I spent last night trying to learn to cartwheel as it is needed in the pattern I'm learning for next grading- I was not an active kid so am doing things at 40 that I never thought I could... hopefully cartwheels will be one of them!)
    I had never heard of Hapkido before I started but feel very fortunate to have stumbled across a great system, great club and great teacher.
  16. Bruce W Sims

    Bruce W Sims Banned Banned

    And thats all to the good, D. Its a little known fact that CHEN TAI CHI CHUAN, when it was first created in the 18th Century, had huge amounts of acrobatic stuff that was later removed. The demands of this training tended to winnow-out the wheat from the chaff, as it were. I mention this, though, because in the modern context a lot of Hapkido schools and organizations have developed all sorts of acrobatic stuff as a way of setting the Physical Education bar at various heights for various practitioners. Its not just a matter of learning technique but that the person needs to be in reasonable good condition. Some groups tend to go a bit overboard, but I think the younger people find this challenging the way a new military recruit might dream of getting into training for some elite unit. Go gettum!

    Best Wishes,

  17. Sunmoo

    Sunmoo New Member

    Hello all, I visit this site on an infrequent basis however enjoy the comments. I have been in the martial arts for over 20 years, majority of that time in TKD, till a guy walked into my Dojang and traded Jujitsu lessons for TKD lessons. After retiring from instructing TKD and moving back home to Florida I was actively seeking out a martial art to broaden my skill set. Enjoyed the Aikido classes with a very good instructor but found all the "dancing around" before the finish did not fit with my Jujitsu, then I stumbled onto North Florida Hapkido and found my new art, something that had TKD and Jujitsu technique integrated into a great self defense art. Am currently preparing for my 2nd dan testing (all 5 hours of it) and will continue to train in Hapkido as long as I am able.

    Our kwan is the Sun Moo Kwan under Kwanjangnim James Allison

  18. unknown-KJN

    unknown-KJN Banned Banned

    Good Luck on your upcoming test, Sunmoo. :cool:
  19. erogers

    erogers New Member

    My name is Evan, and I train at a Jin Jung Kwan Hapkido school in southwest Missouri. I've been training here for about 6 months after training at a place for a few months a couple of years ago. I had somehow got it into my head that I wanted to train in Daito-Ryu AJJ a few years back and as it's not very prevalent in the States so I stumbled on to Hapkido, and I'm glad I did.
  20. Hapki Days

    Hapki Days Valued Member

    My Hapkisool Family Tree

    Hi everyone, I'm fairly new here but have enjoyed reading this thread so I thought I would share my Hapkido club's family tree/ background. Feedback welcome. Sorry about the length :hat:

    Hapkido history is fascinating in as much that there are so many versions of its origins; one thing is certain that the name Hapkido 합기도, in regards to the art we see today, is relatively modern, first used about 1954.

    Hapkido has similarities with other martial systems; Aikido and Aikijutsu being the common comparisons, however having studied some Chinese systems, I find kung fu’s Qin Na has had an influence in the way Hapkido uses and trains some of its wrist locks and joint throws.

    I believe the word influence is important because I feel Hapkido practitioners in the early days sought the best techniques from the systems at hand (Pardon the pun), I also believe that evolution continues today, the beauty of Hapkido is that it based on three principles (water, circle and non resistance to force), which opens the doors to Hapkido –ize, for want of a better word, most techniques we come across.
    Following is a brief history of the martial artists who have influenced our version of the art and I would like to think they would approve.

    Takeda Sogaku (1858– 1943)
    Takeda was known as a martial arts innovator and the first to teach Daito ryu to the public. By all accounts he was a tough task master and was known to refuse instruction to people he felt were not mentally or morally fit. He taught mainly by short intensive seminars and his students were usually from the military or police. It is believed that he re- organized and revitalised the style and brought it to public attention because of the general populations need for safety and self defence from disgruntled ex samurai and samurai family members, not allowed to carry their swords after the Japanese ban in 1876. That being said he was known as a master swordsman and was recorded as having killed with the sword in self defence against an angry mob, apparently he was badly injured in the fray and told his son it was a good learning experience. It is not a Japanese term but I believe the term nutter would some him up nicely (nutter may occur alongside other names).
    He taught his version of Daito ryu Aikijutsu and some of his more famous students are; Morihei Uyeshiba – who founded Aikido Doshin So – who founded Shorinji Kempo

    Yong Sul choi (1904 - 1986)
    Known as the father of modern Hapkido, Choi studied Daito ryu Aikijutsu in Japan, there is conjecture as with whom he trained, some say he trained indirectly via Yoshida Kotaro, a student of Takeda, to back that up, Kotaro was a master of the steel fan and those techniques translate very well into Hapkido Dan Bong or short stick techniques. Also Masutatsa Oyama another Korean, who founded Kyokushinkai, trained with Kotaro. Choi himself claimed he was taught the full Daito ryu system by Takeda, either way it is undisputed that Choi taught a martial art to Koreans on his return from Japan that eventually formed into modern Hapkido with its basis on the three principles. If you look at the footwork in the above photo it has similarities with Tae kyun rather than a Japanese style, so I believe in the great Hapkido tradition Choi had begun to integrate local Korean arts with his Daito ryu.
    Choi’s first student was Sup Bok Suh who witnessed Choi defeat a thug in the line for grain at Suh’s family Brewery. Suh set Choi up in a dojang in Daegu and helped with instruction after receiving private lessons. The art was called Yu Sool Kwan and the Dojang was named the same.

    Kim moo Hong
    Also known as Kim Mu Hyun, Kim is credited with developing the kicks of Hapkido. According to Sup Bok Suh, Kim took the concepts of basic kicks in the early Choi Hapkido, and went to a temple to develop and improve them. He then went to Seoul and while staying at Ji Han Jae’s Sung Moo Kwan dojang they finalized the kicking curriculum.

    Suh Bok Sup
    According to most Hapkido historians, Suh was the man who witnessed Choi’s fight in the brewery line up and then invited Choi to teach him, thus becoming Choi’s first student in Korea.
    Suh was a 1st Dan in Judo so he recognised the skill of Choi; it is believed that Suh’s influence on Hapkido was the fact that he wanted to learn off Choi how to defend against Judo techniques, which influenced the curriculum on jacket grabs and Judo attacks.
    At that time Choi called his art Yawara, a Japanese term for Ju Jitsu. In 1951 Choi and Suh opened a Dojang named Daehan Yu Kwan Sool Hap ki Dojang, and from that Dojang emerged the future leaders and innovators of Hapkido.

    Ji Han Jae
    Ji was born in Andong, Korea in 1936, at thirteen years of age he began training at the Daehan Yu Kwan Sool Hapki dojang under Choi’s tutelage. Ji studied with Choi until 1956 after that he Learnt Tae Kyun or Sam rang do tek gi (sources have him studied one or the other.), under “Taoist Lee”, allegedly he also learnt “Dan bong” (short stick) and, “Jang bong” (long stick) techniques with ‘Taoist Lee” as well, another possible origin of Hapkido weaponry.

    Around 1996 Ji Han Jae visited Strathfield Dojang as a guest of Master Sung Do Kim, he gave a masterful display of Hapkido techniques, however for the benefit of the Sung Do Kim lineage, the kicking techniques were noticeably different and it would lead me to believe that our kicking style evolved from other sources.
    Ji Han Jae now leads the Sin Moo Hap Ki Do organization in America.

    Huh Ill Woong
    Huh Ill Woong instructed Master Sung Do Kim in the art of Hap Ki Do when Master Kim was a teenager. Huh studied with Kim Moo Hong and I believe that Master Huh learnt the improved kicking style from Hong which he passed on to Master Kim Sung Do.
    Huh Ill Woong also studied with Ji Han Jae and possibly other noted Hap Ki Do practitioners as that was the era of study and development in Korean martial arts.
    There is also evidence (A photograph) that he trained with or exchanged ideas with Jang in Mok, who is reported to have also trained in Daito Ryu Aikijutsu at the same time as Yong Sul Choi, both choi and Mok resided in the Taegu area of South Korea.
    Master Huh visited the Strathfield Dojang in the mid eighties and in discussions with Master Kim advised him to re introduce formal stances, as prior to that there was only Horse stance, fighting stance and natural standing position used for training.
    Master Huh was last known to be teaching a form of Tai Chi, however that was about eight years ago, and was not part of the IHC curriculum.

    Sung Do Kim
    Sung Do Kim is the founder of the “International Hap Ki Do College” (IHC) that had its headquarters in Strathfield, Sydney Australia. Master Kim’s teacher was Huh Ill Woong with whom he had private tutelage. Master Kim also briefly studied Yudo and Tae Kwon Do.
    After studying in South Korea he headed to Argentina and taught there for a short while.
    He then came to Sydney, Australia and had a dojang, briefly in Randwick, and then in Paddington where he and his two brothers Sung Soo (Matthew) and Sung Duk (Joseph) taught Hap Ki Do.
    In 1981 Master Kim opened the IHC in Strathfield, teaching a practical syllabus together with a firm discipline and hard work ethic. As mentioned previously the formal stances were dispensed with and replaced with relaxed, balanced stances for easy transitions from kicking to punching to locks and throws. Master Kim also introduced a series of forms (Hyungs) designed to assist the students kicking and hand strike technique, no hidden meanings, just a tool to drill repeatedly the strikes of Hap Ki Do. Master Kim also organised a series of full contact competitions, allowing his students to find out for themselves the effectiveness of techniques and the importance of movement and fitness, although limited in the techniques that could be used in the ring, it certainly lifted the training ethic in the dojang and gave the students a fighting fit mentality.

    Duncan was born in Bolton England in 1961; his first contact with the martial arts came via his father, Peter, who studied wrestling in Bolton, and showed his sons a few techniques to survive the rough and tumble in the streets of northern England. Duncan’s involvement in the Asian martial arts began under the guidance of Karate Budokan instructor, Tony Chew Cheng Thean 4th Dan Karate and black belt Tae Kwon Do in 1974. James Chong of Budokan Karate also had a big influence on his training.
    Then in 1983 he enrolled in the International Hapkido College at Strathfield in Sydney, under the tutelage of Master Sung Do Kim. He gained his 2nd Dan black belt and instructors’ certificate after teaching the full time training course in 1986, with Master Kim overseeing all training aspects. During his time at Strathfield he competed in martial arts tournaments, ranging from semi contact to full contact bouts with the encouragement of Master Kim.

    Duncan also trained in KOR style Tai chi (Instr. Simon Blow), Muay Thai (Instr. Nick Stone), Wing Chun (Instr. Martin Leung) and Yee Chuan Kung fu, (Instr. Jonothan Murphy).
    Duncan is a keen student of the martial arts and exchanges ideas and techniques with as many fellow martial people as possible.
    Duncan was awarded his 6th Dan by Master Kim in 2009.

    Steve began his martial arts journey at the Kenmore Judo club when he was about 9 years of age, soon after he commenced Tae Kwon Do (Rhee).
    At around 16 he started training in Wing Chun kung Fu under the tutelage of Steve Gow; Steve credits Sifu Gow in having a big influence on guiding him toward effective Martial arts styles. It was from Sifu Gow that he got his first introduction to the Filipino martial arts.
    Steve met Master Kim in 1990 when he was 18 and began Hap Ki Do at Strathfield in Sydney, for two years (1993 – 1994) he was a live in student at the Strathfield Dojang, assisting with classes and immersing himself in the martial arts.
    Steve qualified as a police operational skills instructor in 1998 and a firearms instructor in 2004.
    Steve was graded to 5th Dan by Master Kim in 2009.
    Steve is an ongoing student of the martial arts and has seen the merits and been influenced by numerous martial arts/combat systems and their training methods.

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