I read an article in Fighting Arts International magazine about this guy, back in the mid-80's when i first started MAs. I recently came across a copy of this classic article on the web (excuse the typos, I think its been scanned). Its quite long - but its oh so good: http://www.geocities.com/unlicensed2000a/garyspiers.html For those of you that can't be bothered reading it, the guy was a seriously tough dude from NZ, background in wrestling, judo and Goju-Ryu Karate - worked as a doorman/bodyguard. I recently heard he had died in his sleep ay 57 which is sad. The stories of his bar/street fights are pretty awesome - anyone know of any similar "legends"? I guess if he was 20 years younger he might have had a go at competing in MMA and probably would have been pretty good.