Forms and patterns - time to start during a pandemic?

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by Monkey_Magic, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Monkey_Magic

    Monkey_Magic Well-Known Member

    I had no time for forms, finding my martial arts time was better invested in things like padwork and sparring. How the world has changed! What with Coronavirus shutting down schools, are we entering a time when forms come into their own?

    For the first time ever, I'm jealous of people who can practice forms at home. These are words I never thought I'd utter!
    bassai, Pretty In Pink, Anth and 2 others like this.
  2. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Learn a form!
    Naihanchi/Tekki shodan is short and sweet, doesn't need much space, looks a bit esoteric and weird but has some really cool clinch applications.
    I 'learnt' 31 jo kata from sensei youtube. :)
  3. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    I think this is an open FB link. Let me know if others can't open it and I will delete.

    But yeah, this was posted a few days ago and, as a traditional martial artist, I laughed heartily.

    People can say or do what they want. But , as I always have, I just go about my training- knowing that all the variety of training methods have value and something to teach. Obviously, forms take a high priority now. I am also planning on developing my shadow boxing skills.

    My long time instructor taught me "Don't focus on what you can't do, focus on what you CAN do." At the time, it was in reference to injuries I had, but it suits the situation now very well.

    I actually took this week of to recuperate and heal. But plan on getting back at it today or tomorrow.

  4. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    If you do Sanda, string together some lengthy combos. Repeat. You don't have to do forms in the old-school karate or taekwondo way to do forms. I wouldn't try to learn the Pinan/Heian/Pyong-ahn forms (common in many forms of karate and in tang soo do) without some in-person instruction, since there's going to be some body mechanics very different from what you're used to...but there's nothing stopping anyone who does any kickboxing-like art from memorizing and practicing Enshin katas:

    David Harrison and Monkey_Magic like this.
  5. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    What on God's green earth is stopping you from doing forms?

    Mitlov echoed my thoughts when I read your post.
  6. Monkey_Magic

    Monkey_Magic Well-Known Member

    I don’t know any ‘traditional forms’, but there’s nothing stopping me from inventing my own forms. I did a spot of shadow boxing this morning, which is similar if not the same.
    Mitlov likes this.
  7. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I wouldn't say shadow boxing is the same.

    Repeating the same sequence of movement allows for deeper study, which you can touch on in shadow boxing but you won't get the same depth of exploration.

    I guess I'm lumped into the "anti-forms" crowd, but honestly I've never said forms are bad training, just a terrible way to teach technique. If you are making up your own out of techniques you have got to work against resisting opponents, then the level of visualisation and the benefit you will get out of it will far exceed copying someone else's form and then attempting to reverse-engineer something useful out of it.

    I also think you can forget about unlocking esoteric secrets from copying someone else's form. Forms don't hold any secrets, the person doing them does. You can only get out of them what you put in (in the context of actually being able to apply any of it in a fight).
    Monkey_Magic likes this.
  8. Monkey_Magic

    Monkey_Magic Well-Known Member

    Except my new forms, which will hold secrets known only to Keeper of the Peach Garden of Immortality.*

    *Although for only $100 per month, you will be able to access these secrets on my celestial YouTube channel.
    bassai and David Harrison like this.
  9. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Watch out for monkeys trying to steal those peaches!
    Monkey_Magic and bassai like this.

Share This Page