Dutch MA Manual from 1647

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by Jesh, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. Jesh

    Jesh Dutch Side Of The Force

    Dutch MA Manual from 1674

    Just wanted to share this one with you all, a friend of mine showed me this one.
    It's a manual for self-defense from The Netherlands dated 1674, with illustrations
    and explanations. The text is in medieval Dutch, so if someone wants a translation I'll have to put in some extra time... because the language has changed tremendously since that era.

    Have fun.

    :D

    http://jfgilles.club.fr/escrime/bibliotheque/petter/index.html
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2006
  2. Taff

    Taff The Inevitable Hulk

    Teh. Deadly. :eek:

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    Noooooo!!!
     
  3. Jesh

    Jesh Dutch Side Of The Force

    The Dutch, eye gouging since 1647.

    :p
     
  4. SickDevildog

    SickDevildog Lost In The Sauce

    I like how they hold their hands like eagle claws in some of the pictures, they got joint to ankle locks. :Alien:

    The chapter 3 gravure 3 looks like it has some self defense elemets, thats crazy.


    A translation would be awsome, It'd be nice to know what they are talking about.

    I think I speak for most people when I ask "Translation please Mr. Jesh" :)
     
  5. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    The original RBSD ;)
     
  6. Slindsay

    Slindsay All violence is necessary

    One of my favourite pass times has to be looking at old western self defence manuals and giving all the throws there Japanese names. So far I've seen O Sotto Gari and what i think is a reverse Ippon Seionage.
     
  7. Taff

    Taff The Inevitable Hulk

    The drawings are really cool, and there's some techniques in there that are still around today:
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    Waki Gatame? Sort of I guess...


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    Wedgie :eek:


    Some dodgy stuff in there like that knife defence though :eek:
     
  8. Jesh

    Jesh Dutch Side Of The Force

    Yeah, those knife defenses aren't really good. But it's cool that they included them anyway.
     
  9. HwaRang

    HwaRang Just don't call me flower

    I can just see some ye olde Dutch MA-ists getting together and having discussions about their favourite kick or which are better: flintlocks or rapiers :p
     
  10. Jesh

    Jesh Dutch Side Of The Force

    Those ye olde guys are long gone.

    :D
     
  11. adouglasmhor

    adouglasmhor Not an Objectivist

    Very nice indeed Jesh. I particularily like the idea of throwing someone by their hair. :eek:

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  12. Tri

    Tri New Member

    Clearly this is the origin of "t3h str33t".
     
  13. LiaoRouxin

    LiaoRouxin Valued Member

    Remy Bonjasky by flying knee KO
     

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