do any one know any techiques against a guy with a gun? i have a few ideas but i don't really test it out in a real situation. :woo:
the best technique is do what he tells you and look for an escape route....DO NOT try to fight him.....you may end up dead! :woo:
Run faster than a speeding bullet? Are we talking up close or several feet away? There are many up close techniques, but I wouldn't recommend using them, unless you are Jet Li or Jackie Chan. Best offense to a gun is to follow the gun holders instructions.
even jet Li and Jackie Chan wouldn't use those techniques...IF IT WAS real LIFE! Movies are MOVIES dude! :woo:
The idea of following the instructions of the gun holder is good, with a few exceptions: The number one rule of when to comply vs, when not to is -> Do not go anywhere with the attacker. Your chances of survival PLUMMET if you leave the scene, get into a vehicle, etc. Part of the reason for this is they are taking you to a place that they can do things to you that they can't do to you in the street. As far as gun defese, distance is key. If you are within three feet or so of a drawn weapon you are capible of defening yourself and honestly, it's not as hard as people think. Outside of that close range, if the weapon in drawn, then you're getting into the gun's optimal range. Trouble comes from being there. Look, from a defense mindset, once a weapon comes into play consider yourself already dead, and be prepared to work yourself back to life. For more on this subject, check out: http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19565 - Matt
Possibly, I was thinking three feet away from the attacker's core, not necessarily three feet away from the weapon. Probably a better rule is approximately a foot away from the gun. Although three feet is better than lets say five to ten don't you think? - Matt
Agreed but the two successful disarms I know of were when the weapon was almost touching them. One not 100% successful (the person was shot but recovered) was just at grasping range.
Start pretending to have a fit on the floor an hope he take pity on you and runs away! Lol! Sorry On a more serious note though at a distanct best bet is to run! Odds are very low hitting you with a hand gun due to accuracy! But if close up whatever you do dont make sudden moves or panic the gunman, That way they will become nervous and may end up pulling the trigger by accident rather than on purpose! If you dont feel confident enough to carry out a dis-arming technique things can go horribly wrong! I found it helpful to buy a cheap platic gun and practice different ways! Best and quickest way to move out the line of trajectory! It may differ for different people so give it a go and see which you feel more confident about!
yea that's pretty much what i was thinking get in close and do as much damage as possible. would you guys suggest disarming him or just pinning the gun. also i like ur avatar matt :bang:
Thanks. All weapon defense is based on the same four steps. 1. Get off the line of the weapon & Simultaniously clear the weapon 2. Move inside the effective range of the weapon, check and isolate it(this doesn't mean necessarily grappling) 3. Punish the core 4. Disarm if necessary Attempting to disarm a gun is a great way to get shot. I've seen this happen to people (training rounds were in the gun). Most people can clear a gun that is against or near their body without getting shot. However, when attempting to disarm the gun usually crosses ones body a number of times and that's where the pain happens. Get off the line. Clear the gun. Step behind the gun, moving on an angle. With one hand check and control (not necessarily wrestle) the gun arm (Not the gun). PUNISH THE PERSON'S HEAD WITH YOUR FREE HAND. Not kidding here. Do as much damage as possible in as little time as possible. Stay close to the person. When they go limp, remove the gun. - Matt
Perhaps I'm not reading this right. Did you say its easy to disarm people with a gun or people who are carrying a gun? Modern ninja?
Cobra, When you make assertions, can you back them up with a description of technique? It makes the discussion better and is a far mroe compelling method of explaining your point of view. - Matt
The dis-arming is the easy part i agree! The hardest part is having the balls and confidence to actually apply the technique! You'd be suprised what happens to people when you point a live gun at them! In Northern Ireland you'd get all sorts of responses! 90% of the time some crazy dance of fear!
