Danaher banned techniques

Discussion in 'Brazilian Jiu Jitsu' started by Dead_pool, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. hewho

    hewho Valued Member

    No-Gi is no heel hooking, toeholding, or reaping any new guys, and asking every partner every time what they want to roll with. No BIG throws unless you can control them, and your partner can break fall, no scissor takedowns. The usual rules apply about fishooking,checking for oil, eye gouging etc, cheap shots like rubbing knuckles across faces or neck cranks are at your discretion!
    JJJ, if it's just me and the instructor, which is frequent, then anything except fishooking, eye gouging, scratching, biting, and oil checks are more or less fair game, but we've been rolling together for a while, so we tend to know what the other can or can't take.
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  2. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    I've heard of that move, but I didn't know that's what it was called :eek:

    If I heard of a place rolling with these rules I am sure I would avoid at all costs!!
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  3. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    does that kind of stuff work, or just make a person mad? because i feel like that, an oil change, if done to me would just make me mad. i mean i'm 48, i get an "oil checkup" every year when i go to doc for my checkup--probably too much info, but again, i'm 48, it's reality. it's not going to bother me, but it's going to make me mad, and when i get position, i'm just going to be a jerk about it. it's like the elbow in the thigh during guard passing, kind of deal. that has actually never made me open my guard, not like doing the technique properly. it just makes me mad.
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  4. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    side note....i would rather not have to hear "you're going to feel some pressure", while my doctor is putting on a glove and lubricating a finger. oh well, the things we do to make sure we're in good shape. lol
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  5. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    I imagine...although I may be wrong...your doctor is a bit more gentle than your average grappler? :)
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  6. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    it's still only going to aggravate me. but that's just me.
  7. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

  8. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    this actually does work, to bring the conversation back to bjj...

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  9. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    this is my other go-to...

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  10. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Such a great pass and SO effective
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  11. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Mind you I shin crank on the way through sometimes...
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  12. Vince Millett

    Vince Millett Haec manus inimica tyrannis MAP 2017 Gold Award

    I don't know why Danaher objects to Tani Otoshi/Valley Drop... I understand his thinking on the other two but this has me mystified.
  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

  14. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    I see the issue as control I can control to a large extend what happens with a heel hook, and loosen if I think it's going wrong with my partner, with a guard pull or scissor sweep once in the air control is gone and with it injury risk increases .
  15. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Flying scissor take-downs. enthusiasm over skill can result in a serious lack of control. In kung fu we do these both bellow and above the waist. so the risk is to the spine. Fine for practice in controlled conditions. Not for sparing.

    In oil wrestling (a key art in the otomon empire and still widely practiced. the combatants wear britches and oil there legs, arms, torso and head ). a key tactic in the art is to put your hands down the back of the opponents trousers and hook in order to gain a grip.

    I would hope that this is banned in BJJ
  16. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I've been drilling using this video as a guide recently, and found it very good, I've lightly hit in in sparring a few times and having the hand posted (and the hips super high, And the angle correct) allowed me to feel and disengage when the throwee was about to break their own leg.

    It's a nasty nasty takedown.

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  17. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    When I for st started shoot fighting that takedown, heel hooks toe holds etc were all legal bjj guys would look in horror as we trained them then I'd look in horror at the guard jumping they did, to me that was wayyy more dangerous
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  18. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    My knees ache just looking at scissor leg takedowns.
    (Actually they ache when just looking at stairs)

    Anyhoo, Ive seen too many that are rushed and ended up being like spinning guard pulls/butt smash into the side of the knee.
    *brrrrr -cold chills
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