combat hapkido

Discussion in 'Hapkido' started by hotrod1, Jul 1, 2004.

  1. hotrod1

    hotrod1 New Member

    hi everyone i have recently come across something called combat hapkido which mainly practicies self defence as far as i can gather as anyone got any more info on this and if it any good thanks
     
  2. oni_sensei

    oni_sensei Valued Member

    Just another self-defense system designed for t3H sTr33t, supposedly cutting all the BS out of the MA. That was my first impression, but others may be able to shed some brighter light on it. To me, it's just another fancy name for an eclectic mix of MA.
     
  3. bvermillion

    bvermillion Valued Member

    I personally have no exerperience with combat hapkido. But my instructor reached his 1st dan through them and then left. I dont know the details I just know he wasn't happy with the instruction, but he said Pellegrini is an excellent martial artists and there are numerous excellent martial artist within the program.
     
  4. MaxG

    MaxG Valued Member

    Have you looked at their website? www.ichf.com

    You can also check out the Hapkido origins thread where it is discussed a little bit. Thomas does a very good job of describing the style.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2004
  5. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Greetings! I train in Combat Hapkido (2nd dan) and have previously trained in TKd (3rd dan), Traditional Hapkido (2nd dan) and other stuff. Combat Hapkido is a mixed style that is designed to be open enough to either act as an additional set of cross training opportunities for any style or for progression as an individual style.

    Most of the instructors in the style have trained for years in other styles, tried Combat Hapkido and liked it and then studied the curriculum and tested in to gain rank. The rank issues are not really a big issue... other styles ranks are honored or you can train in Combat Hapkido without trying to earn rank (based on your level of ability).

    Combat Hapkido provides training through seminars (and books and videos) on striking, grappling, weapons like cane/stick/knife, trapping, and etc.

    In my personal opinion, all of the Combat Hapkido instructors I have met have been very good teachers, extremely competant martial artists, and good people. I know there are some exceptions out there but I've never met them. Training is open to ICHF members and non-members alike... members get the benefits of earning rank and getting a newsletter.

    Check out the following threads... if you have any Combat Hapkdio questions, I will do my best to answer them on this thread. (Or, if you want to ask about individuals, PM me, please).

    Hapkido origins
    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16577
    What kwan are you?
    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2734
    Changing schools with styles
    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11054
    Summary of an ICHF seminar
    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2598

    ICHF home page: www.ichf.com
     
  6. nj_howard

    nj_howard Valued Member

    thomas, i read recently that one of the gracies is now affiliated with combat hapkido, apparently teaching ground defense.

    as combat hapkido continues to incorporate more and more eclectic elements, do you think that the "jack of all trades, master of none" syndrome could set in? or do they select a subset of techniques from each art and drill them repeatedly until you can do them from reflex?

    just wondering...
     
  7. SoKKlab

    SoKKlab The Cwtch of Death!

    Surely that 'Jack of all trades..' comment is as relevant to any system such as Ju Jitsu, Hapkido etc, as they are systems that attempt to cover all eventualities and scenarios. I mean 'normal' Hapkido is hardly specialised is it??? I mean is it a Striking system? Is it a Grappling system???
    (Answer=No).

    (No, I don't do Combat Hapkido either....)
     
  8. MaxG

    MaxG Valued Member


    Carlson Gracie is now affiliated with Combat Hapkido and is actually doing Double Impact seminars with GM Pellegrini on occasion. Personally I would prefer to be a "jack of all trades" when it comes to fighting. Limiting oneself is detrimental in all situations. Fighting included.

    I doubt anyone (Karate, taekwondo, kempo, any martial artist) would turn down the opportunity to train with someone of Carlson Gracie's quality.
     
  9. bvermillion

    bvermillion Valued Member

    Royce Gracie trains in hapkido. He said he likes the philosophies of hapkido.
     
  10. oni_sensei

    oni_sensei Valued Member

    Ooops, after looking at that website I realise I was talking about a different organisation. Didn't mean to put down either group at all. Pity that GM Pellegrini doesn't have any schools in Australia, I'd be damn inclined to check it out.
     
  11. nj_howard

    nj_howard Valued Member

    yeah, fair point, i guess. i suppose i was thinking in the strict sense of hapkido being "one" martial art, as opposed to combat hapkido, which incorporates techniques from other arts.
     
  12. nj_howard

    nj_howard Valued Member

    thomas, no disagreement. my point was that as an art becomes more and more eclectic, there is a greater burden on the student to spend enough time on all of the techniques to become proficient at them. yes, it's best to try to be prepared for anything.
     
  13. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    (Nice thread so far, but I think you got MaxG and me confused a bit...)
    To me, the beauty of Combat Hapkido is that it can be used as "bolt-on" cross-training or as a whole style.

    There are people out there who are happy with their own systems but want a little extra... Combat Hapkido offers seminars on grappling (with Carlson Gracie, who is also learning Combat Hapkido now), knife defence, cane, trapping, Police Defensive Tactics, third party protection, and good ol' down and dirty self defence. They can train with us, work hard and not be bothered about ranking or doing all of the classes. In this way, we do see a lot of "Jack of all trades" idea... because we offer training in lots of stuff.

    If a person wants to rank in Combat Hapkido, they must demonstrate a set curriculum... which is based on open hands/striking/joint locks/falling/etc... all pretty well set and linked with a video remedial set (you can't do it just by video). Anything you choose to study beyond that is up to you (or your instructor). You can also test in certain categories (like cane) at seminars and get basic ranking, advanced, or instructor ranking... usualy done in front of GM P.

    A person can specialize in Combat Hapkido and learn a full martial arts system... and accessorize it with anything they want. Alternatively, they can just learn elements of it and graft it onto their own systems. It's pretty flexible.
     
  14. Oldie

    Oldie New Member

    Combat Hapkido, a bit of my own experience

    I trained in Combat Hapkido for about a year after gaining my 1st dan in tae kwon do and 1st brown in Modern Arnis and 2.5 yrs in Jeet Kune Do. I chanced upon it after having some disagreement with a Hapkido school owner (she didn't want me to learn it for free in exchange for my teaching the kicking aspects).

    I still like Combat Hapkido, even after a family situation stopped me from pursuing it further. The instructor is very knowledgeable and friendly. The class format is not as rigid and ritualistic as traditional martial arts such as tae kwon do and Hapkido. Ranks are not as important as knowing the stuff.

    I like Combat Hapkido because of the practical aspects of it. The kicks are lower but more effective than the higher TKD kicks. The joint locks and takedowns apply to daily situations. Not a big guy myself, I find the techniques easily applicable. I enjoyed every class I attended and soon realized the impracticality of many of the TKD techniques, especially the high kicks and various spinning kicks. Board breaking is not required in combat hapkido either. There is no form of any kind, and no foreign language to master or imitate.

    With Combat Hapkido, I found my martial arts training much more complete, because now I realized I also had the close range combat skills that I lacked while training in tae kwon do. I did have some exposure in jeet kune do and modern arnis, which employed trapping and joint locks, takedown, grappling, ground fighting, stick skills etc. In some ways, these three arts (JKD, Modern Arnis and Combat Hapkido) have something in common, but I like the way the curriculum is programmed, a bit more structured than JKD and formless compared to Modern Arnis.

    I am not here to knock tae kwon do which has many forms. The forms are good when practiced, for they provide balance and some foundation for the striking movements, although not practical for combat. In my free time, I still practice the forms, for cardio's sake and to complement my regular exercises.

    Oldie
     
  15. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

  16. Alucard

    Alucard Guest

    Greetings All.
    I met Grandmaster Pellegrini about 2 years ago when I took the IPDTI ( International Police Defensive Tactics Institute) instructor course, since then I attended a half a dozen or so seminars..Here was a style that could be easily learned and added to any exsisting skills that the individual already possess..Here was an instructor that made learning Fun without all the narrowminded,insulting,I'm-better-than-you-attitudes that some self professed GM's exhibit..
    I've examined others and this one work for me..
     
  17. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Nice to meet you and good to hear good things about GM P. My master also is a graduate of the Police Defensive Tactics course and is licensed in it. I personally like that kind of stuff as well!

    P.S. I know what you mean about GM P's methods of instruction... always fun and hands-on. Even in a fairly large seminar, you get loads on personal attention... and have fun!
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2004
  18. Dr.Syn

    Dr.Syn Valued Member

    Thomas,
    Thanks for the response. Sorry about the slow response time but my PC took a dump and refused to let me sign on to any site..The nice people here blanked out my old name and password and let me start anew, so Alucard is now Dr. Syn..
     
  19. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Good to see you back, under a different guise! Looking forward to more posts!
     
  20. Dr.Syn

    Dr.Syn Valued Member

    Thomas.
    Are you planning on attending the seminar in Kentucky this November? The guys from Self Defence Canada are flying in for it..I introduced a friend of mine who is a 6th Dan in Tai-Shin-Do to GM P and Combat Hapkido at a one day seminar in PA earlier this year and now he is hooked on it...He will be attending with some of his students..My home PC is still out of commision so my responces and posts are few and far between..
     

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