Ch'uan Chang Do

Discussion in 'Kung Fu' started by Timmy Boy, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. Timmy Boy

    Timmy Boy Man on a Mission

    Anyone heard of these guys?

    Apparently they have a club in my village just down the road from me. I'm dubious about the "do" name, and I think from the style's description that it's a hybrid of several styles that aren't all Chinese, but apparently they spar so I'm approaching it with an open mind.

    Any idea what to expect?
  2. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    " Legend has it that the either the first Westerners to learn Martial Arts got impatient to see their progress better defined and wanted to be measured, or the Japenese army needed to be measure progress of the troops so grades and belts were introduced."

    Well,they're obviously not history majors. Or grammarians/proof readers.

    But kidding aside,the site really doesn't anything much about the system.

    So could be a nice hybrid,or chop suey. Always worth checking something out. Sounds good that they don't test based simply on time in.
  3. Timmy Boy

    Timmy Boy Man on a Mission

    Well, I thought I would resurrect this thread to comment on my experience at the club. This is just my humble opinion.

    The good:

    * More emphasis on physical fitness than other TMA clubs.
    * Willingness to adopt techniques that have been proven to work well under pressure, such as Thai kicks and boxing punches.

    The bad:

    * The boxing and Thai techniques are not taught particularly well, and technique is sloppy.
    * Despite the MMA gloves and shin pads, the attitude to sparring is still somewhat "traditional" in that they want it to be very light and slow-paced.

    The conclusion:

    It was one of those "traditional" clubs in which they try to adopt aspects of MMA but don't quite get the bigger picture.
  4. butcher wing

    butcher wing Oi, Fatso!

    You do know that's there's Chow Gar Southern Mantis being taught in Bishops Stortford? Traditional Hakka fighting system taught the old fashioned way ;)
  5. Timmy Boy

    Timmy Boy Man on a Mission

    Interesting. What does that training entail?
  6. butcher wing

    butcher wing Oi, Fatso!

    conditioning, stances, more conditioning, padwork, SPM specific 2 man training and strength drills, conditioning, form practice and fighting apps etc.

    similar to this:

    [ame=""]Introduction into the Art of Southern Mantis kung fu being taught in Crawley . - YouTube[/ame]

    and this


    I did another system before mantis and I have to say it doesn't even come close to SPM IMO.

    pm me for teacher details
  7. Timmy Boy

    Timmy Boy Man on a Mission

    Interesting. What about sparring?
  8. butcher wing

    butcher wing Oi, Fatso!

    Yep. Sparring's in there as well.

    Using your mantis techniques. Not kickboxing.

    When I spar with my teacher we use MMA mitts and kali headguards. Also groin guards so we can mix it with takedowns and grappling.
    Also do weapons sparring too.

    these clips are Sifu Paul Whitrod's guys:

    [ame=""]VIDEO0029 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=""]Orson Vs Nish Pole Sparring - YouTube[/ame]
  9. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    He he. I was black and blue after my last session pole sparring.

    Not SPM though, well not on my part. :D

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