I find it strange that you think chastising somebody while providing no real path of education for somebody to look into, while they are asking for help because they clearly feel like there is something off with their mode of thinking as "being talked to like an adult." What some people did was take the big picture of things and applied it to the individual who was largely ignorant of a whoooooollleeee lot of history. Add in the hostility, and as @David Harrison pointed out I'm so glad I didn't find my way to a group of truly problematic people due to them being accepting and caring. As an aside for some further context about me personally, my ex wife basically left me to rot in a one bedroom apartment for over a year. I couldn't take care of myself because I was so messed up from injuries incurred in the Marine Corps I was unaware about from an IED blast along with PTSD, exacerbated by the boxing match I got knocked out in (documented in the training log here on MAP). She wouldn't take me to appointments because she had school to do, so I was never able to even figure out what I needed to be treated for. I laid in bed for months, terrified with my cooler of food my ex would give me, only able to get up once a day really to take a dump which was absolute hell. I was so hurt when I let myself accept the reality of what she let occur for her own pursuits, that when I started dating again for the first time in my life I told myself I would try to date within my ethnicity so that maybe the relationship would be easier. Maybe the cultural differences was why my ex treated me the way she did. Nope. The first white girl I've ever seriously dated in my life is now my fiance. Her family is as white as it gets, and it's so much harder for me to understand and feel like I'm a part of things sometimes because their cultural upbringing vs. mine. But they love me, and want the best for me. That part there is what matters, and that's the part of caring about other people I want to put out in the world. Race be damned. There were numerous opportunities throughout my life for white supremacists to snatch me up, especially during the period where I was actively seeking something based on ethnicity for the first time in my life due to how hurt I was. I could list you all the ways that would have worked, because I know myself. It probably would have taken years, but it could have happened. So let's break down who I am a bit and what I know (because my country taught it to me). I was a scout sniper in the Marine Corps and I like to think I had quite a few people's respect due to my professionalism and competency (potential future network of people to bring in), as well as my willingness to look out for others. I have implemented my training in a combat zone very effectively. I've killed people, and that's a line to cross mentally. I've had people actively try to hurt and kill me in an extreme environment, so I have experience in avoiding that. I know how to make IEDs from scratch because they taught us how IEDs were made from scratch so we could identify IED manufacturing sites. I know tactics, both to create chaos and confusion or to just create a constant state of terror in a population to control it. I'm the type of person that will die for a cause, and actively searches for a cause important enough that death could be a possibility. I have a literal recorded history of this assessment of myself, much of it on MAP. Imagine a person like me in the wrong hands, knowing what I know. Some people learned in depth history and cultural/social problems in school during their more formative years (I consider this to be up until the point the brain is fully developed, so around 25). I walked around town and played basketball, worked on construction sites with prior felons, and learned how to kill people for my country. Everything I know about race historically is recent (as it is for a lot of Americans, one only has to browse Facebook to see people being blown away by some of the things that have happened in the past). It's not like I'm a lazy person either, nor am I willfully ignorant. Nobody told me, how was I supposed to know? When I think about this stuff I get angry and belligerent initially because I'm mad I didn't know, so I fight back against that feeling. That's what people do. They don't want to be the jerk that has allowed everyone to suffer, so they try to justify why they aren't that person and why they haven't contributed. Blame shifting is also common when somebody is trying to defend against those realizations. That's what was in initial post of this thread a decade ago. Luckily a bunch of jerks at a white methodist church, and a coach that belittled an entire ethnicity while denying me opportunity taught me on an emotional level that the pain of the things done to me in the community I grew up in are done to the people who did it to me in many parts of the United States. A lot of things that were done to me growing up were pretty rough, but I think I'm glad for it because it taught me empathy and protected me from being swayed into extremism. From my experience, very few people are going to process things the same way I did, or have similar experiences due to the community event range of experiences I was privy to. Plenty have the same training though. Plenty have the same kind of abuse and hurt. Plenty are looking for somebody to love and accept them, just like the rest of us. Absolutely treat people like adults. "Hey dummy, maybe look up this and this and this. I can't imagine you would know about all these things, and the actual time frame of events and still think those things? If you do know about those things, please express why you think they don't matter because I got a list of reasons why you're freaking wrong" is a lot different than "shut the hell up white boy, you don't even get to talk." I'm not trying to argue for infinite tolerance of people's crap here, just that maybe if a topic like this comes around again we don't create an environment that could force somebody to run into the arms of actual extremism. I don't think it starts with a youtube or facebook algorithm. I think it starts with somebody who has felt so little acceptance and love in their life getting those feelings from people will evil intentions. We often create the opportunities for those people to put their foot in the door. Maybe we let the door crack open but put a chain/bolt lock on so it stays shut at least?