Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by Mangosteen, Nov 3, 2017.
I thought it was a lateral drop personally....
I always thought a lateral toss has to go heavy on the back arch with chest to chest contact?
But some of the lateral drops in the video looked like Billys.
That's going to the far armpit as the "effort" part of the lever. The Dragon Screw in all the catch videos was "effort" and "pivot" on the near arm (trapping and the uppercut motion to the same arm. not trapping the near arm and doing the uppercut motion to the opposite arm). Same principle, different application.
I always called it a Deep Arm Drag TD. But thats only from my Pro Wrestling fanboy-ness.
I've used that throw as a counter to the Russian/2on1. But i rarely pull off the throw
I did it against a roundhouse kick once....true story!
Lateral drop is simply a sacrifice throw you drop under them and your momentum and gravity do the rest, different arm position to the throw in the video, so different fulcrum but the principle is the same
The more logical approach is when you attack one of your opponent's legs, if he resists, you should attack
- his other leg , or
- the same leg in reverse direction.
Most my wrestling experience comes from training with a free and folkstyle guy geared toward sub wrestling. He gave things weird names as I think his coach came up with funky names and it just got passed down
Yep normally as in the video pip posted its a reaction throw push into them and as they push back fall under them and steering wheel them with our arms so lift with the under hook and pull with the over hook and over they go
Bst posted a clip on YouTube of the throw of a 2 on 1 hope this works Bst Academy
I'd love to see that! I bet with the moment that would send them flying.
Looks like a fun through, shame I never did that in judo/wrestling.
The moment that you use sacrifice throw, you lose your momentum and you have to commit to the ground game. When you get under hook, you don't need to use sacrifice throw. You can use
- hip throw,
- leg lift,
- leg spring,
- leg break,
For example, here is "under hook leg spring".
When the aim is to pin why would you?
When you use "under hook" to pin your opponent's arm. Your opponent can also use "over hook" to pin your arm. The chance is 50-50.
Thats wrestling though....the whole point is to get them down and pin them...saying "you commit to go to the ground" as critique of a technique seems a little awry when that is the stated purpose
Depends on by how wrestling style no?
Does Chinese wrestling have ground work?
No but judo and western wrestling which this thread seems to be talking about do, and in their context that takedown makes perfect sense
My point precisely
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