Bill Nye: Creationism is Bad for Kids

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  1. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Oops, now it's my turn to be embarrassed - the bill is apparently dead and my outrage is out of date. Still, it's a good case study on how business can corrupt good policies and good science.

    http://www.arl.org/sparc/media/blog/sponsors-and-supporters-back-away-from-research-wo.shtml
     
  2. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Not really. I've seen something on this subject before that referenced these very same fish in African lakes. It interesting but not creepy. I find it more interesting when two organisms survive in the same ecological niche in completely different ways. Especially when they have a common ancestor.
     
  3. Blade96

    Blade96 shotokan karateka

    they might have believed in god but they became scientists because they werent willing to just sit down and say god did it.


    Otherwise I read through this thread and everyone else said everything. There's nothing for me to say :(
     
  4. OwlMAtt

    OwlMAtt Armed and Scrupulous

    I have two things to say about this comment:
    (1) Scientifically, creationism is wrong, period. That some great scientists once believed it has no bearing on scientific fact. Great scientists are wrong all the time, not because they're stupid, but because we discover more as we go along. Would you have us go back to Newton's understanding of gravity? Kepler's model of the solar system? They've both been disproved.
    (2) I direct you to another great scientist, Neil DeGrasse Tyson:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti3mtDC2fQo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti3mtDC2fQo&feature=related[/ame]
    (Watch 20:55-22:09)
    He is a great admirer of Newton, and considers him the greatest scientific mind that ever lived, but he takes issue with Newton's theism. He makes a strong case that Newton had the mathematical tools to answer even greater questions than he did, but gave up, satisfied to leave those answers to God. Newton's theism, says Tyson, didn't make him a great scientist; it prevented him from being an even greater scientist.
     
  5. AndrewTheAndroid

    AndrewTheAndroid A hero for fun.

    I haven't read all of his/her posts, so I am not really sure where Philosoraptor, or anyone for that matter, tried anything like that.
     
  6. greytowhite

    greytowhite Valued Member

    My mother brought me up in a church that brainwashed us with material from Ken Ham and Ron Carlson. I can't see young earth creationism as anything but willful ignorance.
     
  7. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    one of these days i'm going to make it down to the creation museum to check out ham's "creation". dinosaurs and humans living together in the garden of eden? yes!
     

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