Beginning Martial Arts

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by hongkongfuey, Sep 18, 2003.

  1. NewFighter

    NewFighter New Member

    I did, basically.
    I couldn't find the exact answer that i'm looking for, but here's some stuff that i'm intrested at:

    Judo, BJJ and Sambo.

    They all seem pretty good, but the question asked is which one of them will help me develop my attack/defence skills and will be effective in street fighting as well as trainings?
     
  2. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    which is close to you?

    go attend some trial sessions. see which will suit you.
     
  3. nForce

    nForce Banned Banned

    Ok guys incase you havent read my thread,

    I'm 17 yrs old, 234lbs, pretty big built, been going gym for 3 years, although i have about 30lbs of fat to loose, my fitness is probably below average, havent done any sports for like a year now or more, in which i put alot of weight on, i'm also 6ft 2".

    I'm currently looking into Lau Gar Kuen Kung Fu, and San Da chinese kickboxing, i'm thinking of taking both up.

    I originally wanted to do muay thai instead of chinese but they don't practise it, whats your thoughts between the two? if i join somewhere i don't want to practise a martial art that in 6months time ill change school for a better one.

    The sifu who i spoke to said chinese boxing is the most aggressive type, pressure points, knees, elbows, head, but he is biased so im currently trying to sort it out in my own head, opinions appreciated.
     
  4. Vicious

    Vicious New Member

    Okay now it's my turn....

    I am 16 years old, 5'10,and and my weight is 170 pounds, Have a muscular, but not too muscular build( something like a UFC body)and I am very fit and flexable...these are the fighting styles that are avaiable to me...which you think is best suited for me

    Kenpo
    Jujitsu
    Jeet Kune do
    Aikido
    Hapkiyudo
    Muay Thai
    Tae Kwon Do
    Judo
    Tai Chi
    Karate
    Brazilliam Jujustu
    Kung-Fu(not sure what type it is though)
     
  5. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    guys, this isn't where you list the stuff you want to do. this is where you read all the advice that people over time have given to people who want to start martial arts. basically it boils down to:

    -what's in your area?
    -does the instructor seem credible?
    -are the people who train there people you want to train with?
    -does the mode of instruction suit you?
    -is the price right?
    -is it a mcdojo?
    -does the instructor instruct well? do you understand him?
    -can you get along with the instructor?

    -sit in a class, see how it feels to you.
    -be very picky. martial arts is a very personal decision.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2005
  6. chang_jon

    chang_jon Valued Member

    re.viscious

    if you are fairly flexible i would recommend brazillian ju jitsu, itis a god all rounder which specialises in groundwork.
     
  7. Vicious

    Vicious New Member

    Thanks I'll try Brazillian ju jitsu...I think they teach Muay Thai there too...or was a Vale Tudo...what is Vale Tudo?
     
  8. Vicious

    Vicious New Member

    Is Krav Maga a good martial art for the street?
     
  9. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    "vale tudo" means "anything goes" in portugese. it is an old mixed martial art, no holds barred competition that started in brazil where there were only a few rules. no eye gouging. no biting. no fish hooking. everything else is ok. knock out or tap out. no judges. a vale tudo site

    as for krav, it is the self defense martial art reportedly taught to the israeli defense force (idf). this and hagana originated in the modern state of isreal for military use. but since verybody in isreal is part of the idf, everybody has to learn it's precepts. click here to see krav maga.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2005
  10. gogok.k

    gogok.k Valued Member

    It IS HARD WHEN YOU FIRST START BUT THEN AGAIN ALL THE MORE REASON TO TRAIN MORE AND HARDER AND GAIN MORE POSiTIVE PROSPECTS TO HELP YOU ON THE JOURNEY TO BLACK BELT.
    p.s In my taekidokai it is required that once you are a black belt you will become an instructor, But personelly I dont want to be an instructor, I see myself as a valuble black belt always assisting and performing :)
     
  11. Jon1983uk

    Jon1983uk Valued Member

    I know a guy who does Vale Tudo and it is an extremely brutal style. :)

    I agree, all martial arts are tough to begin with. I've been doing Hsing-I for 4 weeks now and there's not a day goes by that a bend in my knee will not result in pain. :)

    I generally prefer kung fu because it's more to do with punching, which I find more practical in self defence situations, and internal arts because they put improve your muscles and not just stamina. But it's really up to you what you do, I don't judge any style to be better than another, it all just depends on what you want to get out of it.

    I did Shaolin Splashing Hands for a week, my dojo is one of the few in the UK to teach it and it's a very good style for fighting and losing weight; while something like Chen Tai Chi builds chi and muscles more, but relies alot more on self defence applications (ableit very good self defence applications :D), than super-fast punching of Splashing Hands. So ya see, it depends on what you want really. :)

    They're all tough, they will all hurt (at least in my experience so far :D) and they all have their uses.
     
  12. regs

    regs New Member

    Dragon Society International

    OK, I'm new to MA's. I'm taking Okinawa Karate and I was doing a little bit of investigation on my sensei. This is probably a stupid question, but, as I can't seem to find the information anywhere else that wouldn't be biased, can someone tell me about Dragon Society International. Is it just one of the McDojo-ish things out there or is it legit?

    My sensei is Frank Annese, his wife is Michelle Annese, and they are both certified instructors through Dragon Society. Is that something a person should be somewhat impressed with or is it just some money making thing?

    I know that I really enjoy the instruction that I get there, and have seen full contact sparring, albiet with the equiptment on. I'm only a white belt, but we work with the bags or wavemaster's usually at least once a week. Heck, I've already had training accidents and I'm only about a month in. Turned my ankle. It got caught on the base of the wavemaster while I was working on it with combo's. Was moving around the bag, my ankle got caught, body was moving but ankle wasn't, I went down.

    Sensei has had us working some with pressure points and we've done some throwing. Most classes are pretty full of warm-ups, then point contact sparring for us beginners. In our dojo we start full contact sparring (with pads) at green belt when you start the Intermediate class. I guess all the post's I've seen about McDojo's on here and other sites have me a bit paranoid, though. If someone wants to check out the school, the website is Annese Martial Arts. I'd appreciate any feedback you could give me.

    Sensei owns the studio and teaches pretty much all the classes. Michelle helps out some when he's tied up with something, but usually he only has her do some warm ups, then he will get to the class as soon as whatever he's busy with is through. Michelle I think teaches one of the childrens classes, but they don't have students teaching there to the best of my knowledge. So, if someone could help me out on this, would appreciate it. Is the whole Dragon Society International a legit Society? Is it something that I should be proud about sensei being a certified teacher for? Anyways, appreciate any feedback you could give me on the issue.

    regs


    EDIT: Please break long posts into paragraphs. :)
     
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  13. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    I don't know much about the karate world but what you describe sounds fairly well organised. People do teach martial arts for money. They always have done. And there's nothing wrong with that so long as the teacher is honest.
     
  14. TheRyanExpress

    TheRyanExpress New Member

    Hey guys, I am new here, and I wanted to know if anyone could guide me in the right direction. I wnt to learn a martial art that is good for self defense. Also, if somebody knows of a good school in Brooklyn, Ny, say something :)
     
  15. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    please read the entire thread. look here. and google it.
     
  16. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Personally I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of martial arts would be useful for self defence. Some more so than others. But that's only a matter of opinion. When you're asking for self defence you really have to ask yourself what you personally consider self defence.

    You also have to be aware that no teacher or style is going to equip you with a couple of kick ass combo moves that will never be defeated.
     
  17. TheRyanExpress

    TheRyanExpress New Member

    Actually, I was looking into a martial art hat stressed defense, so kicks need not apply. idk, something that is good against punchs, kicks, etc.
     
  18. arc_avalo

    arc_avalo New Member

    If you want something good against punches, try boxing. If you want something good against kicks, try kickboxing. If you want something good against both, try karate or hapkido.
     
  19. Jon1983uk

    Jon1983uk Valued Member

    Hapkido seems good, though for pure self defence boxing, kick boxing and kung fu are the way to go for me. I always feel more likely to use punches than kicks in an actual fight, which is why I do kung fu. Shaolin Splashing hands is the best for self defence I've come across so far, it's very fast for starters. Though it's also very rare, there's only 4 schools in the world that do it that I currently know of. The closest to you would be Sifu McNeil's Little Nine Heaven school in California. He is regarded as an extremely fine teacher of various arts of kung fu, he taught my Sifu and I have the upmost respect for my Sifu Lomas, so if yah wanna have a look and can get down to Cali., by all means do. :)

    Though I think nearly all martial arts are geared towards self defence (Chen Tai Chi proves even Tai Chi can be deadly :D), so it's really about going out there and seeing the styles in action and thinking it through yourself a bit first.
     
  20. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    The point I was trying to make is that it isn't the style that's good in a given situation it's the student. I know you might not think that's very helpful when you're looking for someone to name a style for you. But that would be pointless.

    Most of the people will reply with "style A" is good against "X". And just by coincidence "style A" just happens to be what they study. Personaly I study Ki Aikido and I've found it very useful for self defence against punches, kicks and weapons. But that's no good to you if your not interested in Aikido.

    Look around your area and see what's available to you locally or within the distance you're prepaired to travel every single week without fail. Find something that grabs you're interest and make enquieries with the teacher. If you want some more ideas try using the search function.
     

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