Bad martial art videos

I fail to see the problem. Maybe a couple of the defenses were a bad idea, but with random attacks you have to just react, it's not going to look perfect like a static drill. Maybe it's not what you'd consider black belt level, but the drill itself is a good idea. What's wrong with training for the street?

As far as the phantom punch, he was going with a punch that could have landed with power. That's a far cry from the chiblasting nonsense we've seen elsewhere.

Now, you could critique certain things here, like kicking a guy with a bat, or not moving from the line of fire very well. These would be valid points. But I don't think it's fair to say "D34dly str33ts LOL" and be done with it.

 

The fact that they're all so obviously compliant, and the presumption that the attacker will be an idiot is among the problems.

 

Does every drill need to be an all out fight though? Live training does not mean full on MMA fight every time.

 

I see a few problems with that video:
(1) Assumption of efficacy. We see a lot of guys taking a single pantomimed strike and falling over, incapacitated. That's assuming a lot. It's the same with breaking holds: it doesn't look like this guy is breaking holds; it looks like he is performing a hold-breaking maneuver and his uke are assuming they would work and letting go.
(2) Carelessness of weapons. At 0:25 we see the tester perform a knife defense in which he stays on the line of attack and just catches the knife hand with his unprotected fingers. If the opponent is stronger or faster than you, you're still on the line of his attack, and you're still going to get stabbed, not to mention the risk to the grabbing hand. In a couple of instances, I think I also see gun defense techniques in which he drags the gun's line of fire right across his midsection. Obviously, that's a very bad idea.

I agree, but even in kata training in stylized arts like aikido and traditional jujutsu, uke goes down because you take him down, not because he thinks you could.

 

That's the kind of thing I was looking for. There's nothing in the video that would be obviously wrong to a beginner. For that reason, just to put it up with no real explanation of what is wrong is unhelpful.

 

Hell no- you more or less have to do compliant drills in the beginning, just to learn the movements. This, however, was a grading.

 

i do think it's fair to say "D34dly str33ts LOL". it's so obviously manure, that's why i posted it.

and yes, if "training for the street" looks like that, then there is something wrong with it. it's not self-defense, it's self-aggrandizement--big difference.

 

This reminds me of some of the giant head drills I have seen, no attacker goes down after one attack like this, and they will CERTAINLY not let you do all the stuff this guy is doing. Even if its a grading it is pointless, its like a fantasy game for petes sake " I got you" ...... "nuh uh".

 

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Watch uke bend his knees and jump.

 

KA...ME....HA ......ME.....HA!!!!!!!.

 

This gentlemen and I clearly have different definition of "full contact" or indeed "punches" for that matter....I have seen people have seizures that look more combat effective

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Wow.

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I use that video to show my students how out of touch with reality some practitioners are....

 

Ha! I just found that video yesterday in my online foray into Wing Chun. I remember thinking, How is he throwing a guy who is already on the ground while standing on one foot?

 

Oh Jesus, you found my Youtube account. Thanks man. Now how am I gonna live this one down? Can you at least tell how good looking I am in that video?

 

Nice arms. You must work out.

 

I'm not a big fan of the techniques. But overkill? It's only overkill if you assume that each and every one of them works like a charm. If you assume that a lot of your counters are going to glance or hit something that doesn't stop the guy, this sort of flow makes more sense.

 

The kicking equivalent?

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He has great balance and flexibility but when you compare him to this guy (in the below video) there is no comparison, some people would probably say "hes showing how fast he can kick, not how hard he can kick". I somewhat disagree, good kicking technique is a combination of both speed and power. It could be he didn't want to hurt the person he was demonstrating on, but there are ways you can get around that without sacrificing power, his opponent could of held up a kicking shield, though that would mean that the kicker would have to move with the bag holder (not that much different to sparring, people move believe it or not)

The video below demonstrates speed, power, balance and flexibility.

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I have to admit, the flow was brilliant, something that American Kenpo has going for it, but I doubt that half of those techniques would be applicable to actual sparring or self defense. So is there a point to demonstrating them in an self defense video?