Assisted Pull Ups vs Free?

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Razgriz, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Razgriz

    Razgriz Valued Member

    Quick one, pull ups... we all love them im sure. But I was wondering what the general consensus is. Is it better (make you stronger) to do 12 with no assistance, up to the bar and down controlled. Or to do nearly x2 that using the machines which give a counter weight,enabling you to do more?

    The desired effect here is stronger,bigger arms.
    Raz
     
  2. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    12 is better and in the right kind of range for hypertrophy.
     
  3. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    no assiatance is always better :)

    If your 1 set max is twelve then do them in a pyramid of 1 -2 -3 -4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 (or you can reverse that order). Leave around 30 seconds between each and you wil have cranked out 65 before you know it
     
  4. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    Curls :confused:

    (I kid, I kid. I know what you mean. If you can do 12 pull-ups start strapping some light weight to yourself or hold a plate/dumbell between your thighs)
     
  5. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    5 with a small child hanging from a chain tied to your waist.
     
  6. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

    Tsk, children. I do them with hanging trucks*!:cool:



    *In my dreams. :D
     
  7. Razgriz

    Razgriz Valued Member

    Curls? Whats a curl?

    Raz
     
  8. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

    A weapon of mass distraction.
     
  9. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    Just check out the guy in the squat rack in your local gym, he's probably doing them.
     
  10. Princess Haru

    Princess Haru Valued Member

    I thought pullups are more chest and back and arms, Chinups are more lats and arms. Discuss?
     
  11. Razgriz

    Razgriz Valued Member

    Is a squat some kind of pilate move?
     
  12. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

    No, it's Zumba.
     
  13. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    Pullups - Hands pronated (Palms facing away), works teres major/minor much more heavily than latismus dorsi, some biceps and anterior deltoid (and forearms, obviously). Harder to do because muscle group compose of smaller back muscles.

    Chinups - Hands supinated (palmist facing towards you), works latismus dorsi, teres major/minor, biceps and forearms. Easier to do because of the added involvement and focus in the the biceps and latismus dorsi as the prime movers.

    Pullups for "wings", chinups for back/arm development, and wings.
     
  14. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    When done in the squat rack, it is kind of like a pirate move. Definitely makes me say "Arrrgh"
     
  15. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    I thought you would use a 60s TV set ;)
     
  16. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

    That's exclusive for squats. :p
     
  17. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    I just have a mental picture of you walking around in a giant barrel thing of grapes with a giant tv set strapped to your back for training. You know, since you live in southern Italy and they make wine there and people used to walk . . . . I'm sure you get what I'm saying.
     
  18. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

    In September when we harvest the grapes you can find me walking around in the fields of grapes carrying giant baskets of grapes...:p

    Now I only need a tv-shaped basket. :eek:
     
  19. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Picnic basket? :p
     
  20. Wildlings

    Wildlings Baguette Jouster

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