Archery

Discussion in 'Weapons' started by Ero-Sennin, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    Anyone have some good resources for information on starting archery?

    I'm looking to purchase a decent recurve bow to start target training on, with the intent to potentially purchase a top line recurve bow in the future for hunting purposes. I also want to do this activity (target practice, not hunting) with the girlfriend. Currently I'm in the information seeking stage. For the most part we're looking at very simple, traditional recurve bows and shooting, not so much the olympic cyborg looking recurve bows that are used with all kinds of sights and crazy stuff attached.

    So far I've narrowed down my draw length (I think). With arms extended to either side I measure 75" from middle finger tip to middle finger tip, and divided that by 2.5 ending with a draw length of 30". Most of the recommended beginner recurve bows seem to sit at 62" long, but I am seeing a lot of information saying I should be looking at around a 68" long bow with my draw length. Using the same method of draw length measuring, the girlfriend has a 26" draw length and the recommended bow length is 56" for her. If 62" is fine for me to learn on, is it fine for her to learn on?

    Right now I have my eye on the Samick Sage Takedown bow, potentially the Samick Journey Takedown for myself as it come at 64", the prior at 62".

    Any help is appreciated! I would rather go to an actual bow shop but the places with bows in the area are heavy on the compound bow side (only recurve are for children, which might as well have arrows with suction cups on the end) with nobody that looks like an expert around (BassPro Shops and sporting goods stores). I have not yet located a shop that specializes in bows that would have personnel that have expertise in the area and aren't going to just tell me, "oh, you'll be fine with this" because they don't know what they're talking about.
     
  2. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Have you got any archery classes/clubs nearby?
     
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  3. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Archery's on my long list of "things I want to do but probably never will". :(
    Not recurve specifically (he's more Olympic style) but I really like NuSensei's vids on Youtube. Lots of wider archery context and tips about alignment, anchor points and ripping Lars Anderson. :)
     
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  4. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Where I live (York) has an archery club that dates back to 1833 and they do regular beginners classes throughout the year.
    You can't just walk in anytime. The beginners classes cover range safety, regulations, technique, etc. It also probably covers craw distance, weight etc. Only after doing that can you come and do their normal shooting times.
    I imagine there might be similar classes around?

    I have a vague dream that one day I'll find the time to do the beginners course, a course to make my own longbow (proper English longbow) and learn to properly shoot my own bow.
     
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  5. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    The most important piece of kit for starting archery is a metal detector. It will save you a fortune in arrows! ;)

    Like Dead_pool and Smitfire have suggested, an archery club would be your best bet, as it will give you a chance to try out different bow types and draw lengths/weights. That bow you're looking at does seem to be a good one though, but I've never been keen on all the counterweights and fancy sights myself.
     
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  6. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    There is an archery range which I'm sure does club events on the other side of the county here. Good 60 minute drive away and might be worth a visit.

    I was going to buy the two bows I mentioned lastnight on Amazon but didn't because the arrows wouldn't arrive until two weeks later. The shops that sell compound bows around here only have arrows with solid plastic fletchings and since I'm not going to be shooting with any added contraptions all advice on arrows says to go with feathered fletchings. No way I'm having two bows sit around without arrows so I can't shoot them >: O.

    I did a lot of research on aiming without assisting devices. The Gap Method seems like it will be my go to method as it's the closest to the method used for shooting that I was taught on. Interested to see if I'll focus on the arrow tip or the target. There was one article touching on keeping focus on the entire picture so nothing is blurred with the Gap Method, not sure how effective that would be.

    I wish I had this interest when I was younger. The Fred Bear Museum and Archery Store was right in the town I live in, but closed down and BassPro bought all their inventory. ::shakes fist at younger self::
     
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  7. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    I ended up jut buying 12 arrows and getting the Spyder XL Takedown Recurve Bow with a 40lb draw for myself, and the Spyder Takedown Recurve Bow with a 20lb draw for the girlfriend. It's made by the same engineers that made the Samick Sage Takedown Recurve Bow. It's apparently better, and for not much added price.

    I have watched A LOT of archery videos the past week. I'm not entirely sure how far I'll get without instruction, but there's a lot of crossover in the fundamentals of shooting between rifles and well . . . anything else you shoots. Aiming a firearm I know, so I think I have a leg up on most trying to teach themselves. The below photo is my group placement at 10 meters after about 30 shots. Every group of 6 I shot I zeroed in more and more so I think I figured the gap aiming for that distance.

    Then I moved back to 20 meters an LOLOLOL. I didn't take a photo of it, but given my placement my placement at 20 meters my left/right steadiness is within a 12" range. It's the gap I need to figure out.

    I'm thinking of doing the same thing you do with shooting a rifle and logging sight picture at release to log placement of the shot on target with what you saw at point of firing. I think that will help me narrow it down a bit.

    Or I might just stay at 10 meters until I know I'm more than consistent just to get the fundamentals of drawing the string. Good lord I didn't know the bicep was going to be as much a part of this as it is. It's such a weird angle for me. If I had what I assume was bad form (when my arrows went where they weren't supposed to) my bicep sure let me know with a hell of a cramp.

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