Antifa Forming "Self Defence" Group

Discussion in 'Self Defence' started by Pretty In Pink, Jun 24, 2017.

  1. neems

    neems Valued Member

    You can watch virtually any rally they attend!

    here's one if you insist.
    A group called national action got proscribed a terrorist organisation a few years ago,when they had committed no acts of terrorism.
    Antifa attack instigate violence against their political opponents regularly,which falls under the definition of terrorism,and yet they suffer no consequences as a movement,double standards.

    Yes I'm aware national action have since then planned acts of terrorism,no doubt because they pushed underground.

    To my knowledge none of the acts of terrorism that Antifa commit regularly,i.e attacking any rally they disapprove of is reported as terrorism.
    So those stats mean nothing.

    And if the man who ran that woman over is found guilty of her murder (I believe he claims he panicked when attacked by the mob she was with),he is certainly also guilty of terrorism.
     
  2. neems

    neems Valued Member

  3. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    You are seriously offering that up as a comparative example?

    Unbelievable.....
     
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  4. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Makes you a wannabe stoic, national socialism is an ideology, just like being a stoic is.
     
  5. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    And it doesnt show the bit where his vehicle is hit by a bat and his vehicle then getting swarmed by a angry crowd which started breaking his windows. Seems like it can, should and probably will be argued as a accident. Bear in mind the crowd only had one fact from said incident and so do we, that vehicle crashed into two others through a group of people, that can be an accident, so why would they rush the car with a bloodlust? I looked at that first and thought "well that could very well be a accident" To repeat, the only facts you have is he went through crowd of people and crashed into two cars, and then retreated after his car got swarmed.

    I can link an opposing video to it, but its not footage only, its a footage and opinion video. You are innocent until proven guilty, they need to prove him guilty of intent to go through said crowd out of malice. I will await and probbly see what the result is after the court sessions.
     
  6. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award


    Are you saying if they weren't banned, the neo nazi group National action wouldn't of planned terrorism?
    Because neo Nazis are just lovely people until they get pushed?

    Despite them saying the jo cox murder was a good thing?

    What is National Action and why is the neo-Nazi group banned?
     
  7. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned


    He reversed AFTER the crowd or as the crowd was swarming him. Do you want to stay in a angry crowd with baats etc that actively tries to break into your vehicle?
     
  8. neems

    neems Valued Member

    No,no it doesn't.
    Wanting to be a stoic makes one a wannabe stoic,not admiring a stoic who I have no intention of emulating.

    And being a member of the German national socialist worker's party is what makes one a Nazi.
    Nazi | Definition of Nazi in English by Oxford Dictionaries

    It's a very specific ideology,and not applicable in 2017.
     
  9. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    1. 1.1derogatory A person with extreme racist or authoritarian views.

    2. 1.2 A person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.
     
  10. neems

    neems Valued Member

    Probably,there's not evidence they had any such ideas before they banned.
    No.
    They should be able to say what they want,so long as it doesn't constitute harassment or a threat.
     
  11. neems

    neems Valued Member

    Those definitions are not workable in this context,the first could include black/Chinese/Japanese nationalists,who no-one would suggest are nazis.
    And the 2nd Antifa fits far better than do their opponents :D
     
  12. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

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  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award


    So people with extreme white supramacist views, who are anti jew, who openly admire Hitler, who have Hitler tattoo's, who wave nazi flags, and chant nazi slogans, aren't Nazis.

    Sorry but your talking bobbins.
    Examples:
    'Blood and soil': Protesters chant Nazi slogan in Charlottesville - CNN
     
  14. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    That was Already taken out of my post after I double checked the footage, before your reply.
     
  15. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    Then disregard it.
     
  16. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    they also killed millions through deliberate starvation and gulags.
     
  17. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Antifacists?
     
  18. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    can we just agree that they are both as bad as each other?
    quote function didnt work communists did.
     
  19. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    So not anti fascists then.

    Anti fascists want to stop modern day Nazis who want to kill ethnic minorities and those with mental health issues, and have killed people, and committed terrorism.

    They are not morally equivalent.
     
  20. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    Isnt this case of Anti Fascism anarcho-communism though? Technically Communists are anti Fascists, just by how the ideology is laid out.
     

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