Another message from the hombu

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by CandyCaneShinai, Apr 28, 2007.

  1. CandyCaneShinai

    CandyCaneShinai Valued Member

    A few years ago, George asked me to make sure the bags and shoes were stacked and cleared out of the way at the hombu before Sensei arrived so that he wouldnt have to climb over the stuff to get into his own changing room.
    This was mentioned on the "guidleines for training in Japan" sheet the everyone was supposed to have read.

    It hasnt happened. Not only that, it's getting worse. I used to only give up the first five minutes of my own training to cleaning up the wooden floored areas of the dojo. It has grown to ten.
    Furthermore, people have expressed anger that their bags were not in the same place when thy came back during the break. (Some people were very understanding, though)

    Please dont bring what you dont need to the hombu. (you can take that any way you like)
    Stack those bags high, but not where Sensei stands and not in front of the bathroom door or the stove.
    Put your shoes in your bag or on the shoe shelf.
    Please.
    Pictures to come tomorrow..
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2007
  2. KempoFist

    KempoFist Attention Whore

    For what it's worth, I personally loved the double meaning. Well played :)
     
  3. CandyCaneShinai

    CandyCaneShinai Valued Member

    One more thing

    George just asked me to add this:

    More and more people are starting to say "May I pay after the class because
    I can't find my bag soon?" I can't help it and this means we have to make
    Soke wait longer before he can leave. So I would like to suggest they show
    up a bit earlier and pay their fees first. Their training has already
    started then. There may be some people who arrive late, but that's OK.
    The more people are prepared, the better the situation will be. The
    keyword is awareness, I think. Soke's class shouldn't be a kindergarten.
     
  4. raitei

    raitei Valued Member

    I just love stacking everyone's shoes up near the door (especially 3 weeks ago when we had around 100 people come on a Friday night). That is why I came to this country...to stack up shoes.
     
  5. Nick Mandilas

    Nick Mandilas Resistance is an option..

    Think of it as practical training for da street

    three guys beat the cvrap out of you at a bar and steal your cash, but as they go to run off with it...WOOPS they stumble and trip at the shoes you stacked at the door...

    Maybe you should have studied... ahem... WU SHU
    ;)
     
  6. raitei

    raitei Valued Member


    HAPPY YOU SAID THAT. Wish more people who visit the Hombu thought the same way as you do! I remember that Norman did ask us many times if there was something he could do. People are ALWAYS watching in Japan...and they NEVER forget.
     
  7. kouryuu

    kouryuu Kouryuu

    I bet they don't treat their own houses like it(or maybe some of them do!!!), IMO there are too many senior grades coming to Japan and TAKING and i don't mean stealing, it's not difficult for ANYONE to offer their help but the senior grades should set an example, especially with turning up to class 5 minutes before it starts and they've been there a week or so already, one group finished Sennou Sensei's class on Saturday morning, stayed in the area and turned up 5 minutes late for Oguri Sensei's class,wtf!!!!, you know what time ALL the classes start so there's NO excuse for getting there late(except as in Dale Seago's case he touched down in Narita airportand went straight to Budokan!!).

    This is for the senior grades who regularly train in Japan, if you think it looks a mess at the Hombu, THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!, if you think Joji needs some help with collecting the money THEN ASK IF YOU CAN HELP HIM!.
    Arnaud goes to Japan at least 3 times a year, on 2 of those occasions he organises people to clean the Hombu, ie wash the mats, clean the Kamidana etc, it takes a couple of hours and he supplies the drinks and food at the end!.

    Over the years people have taken a lot from Soke and the Bujinkan, it's about time they started giving something back not stand there trying to look cool hoping Soke will notice them, he sees a damn sight more than you realise.
     
  8. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    This was mentioned a few years ago over on Kutaki. It seems no one likes to read about the afters from training and just want to go off and do other things.

    Maybe if Soke passed out the bags and demanded people to clean up first, people may realise that they need to look after the areas as they are visitors to another country and someone elses training area.
     
  9. benkyoka

    benkyoka one million times

    To be fair to the 'offenders', most of them think they are doing what is appropriate. They do their best to stack their stuff up with everyone else's. However, due to severe over-crowding, it is not enough. That is why you see people like CCS and co. stacking bags into ridiculously large piles. Most visitors don't wish to disturb other people's belongings (and who can blame them, they are just visitors after all) but it's something that needs to be done due to the stupid amounts of people showing up there now. Add to this the people that are bringing things like gifts (sometimes large ones) and taking up even more space...

    Hombu is not designed to hold the crowds that are now packing in there.
     
  10. bujingodai

    bujingodai Retired Supporter

    I concur with this. When I went it is obvious that building is not designed for the number of people or bags, add the things that people bring Hatsumi Sensei as well. Now you can avoid the going to get the money thing by stuffing it in your tabi etc.
    Not to also mention that alot of people go to Japan without having etiquette in their dojo. The Bujinkan is pretty relaxed as a whole, not always a bad thing but it can go against you in Japan. IMO
    There were alot of things that shocked me there, in the honbu. People sitting on there backsides in their underwear on the mat, I saw a Yudansha eating some chicken in a tupperware container on the mat.

    Are those things OK in the Kan? I know that you'd be getting other arts a little upset in their schools.
    Thats just a question not a prod.
     
  11. newblack

    newblack エピクフェイル

    This happens far too often at the Saturday Hombu double. There was a couple of people ranked high enough to know better who stayed for about two weeks and turned up to either Sennou Sensei's or Ogiri Sensei's class 10-15 minutes late EACH TIME!

    Some people think that because Sensei is smiling everything is ok, but in my experience it most defnitely is not that simple.
     
  12. saru1968

    saru1968 New Member

    Sometimes, it might be good to have a locked door.
     
  13. CandyCaneShinai

    CandyCaneShinai Valued Member

  14. raitei

    raitei Valued Member


    Great stuff! I really like the custom made shinai at the top of the weapons rack. :D :D :D
     
  15. CandyCaneShinai

    CandyCaneShinai Valued Member


    You guys didn't doubt that I actually use a candy cane shinai, did you?
    Oh ye of little faith...
     
  16. kouryuu

    kouryuu Kouryuu

    It's waaaaaaaaaaaaay to powerfull for us minions to handle :p
     
  17. CandyCaneShinai

    CandyCaneShinai Valued Member

    well, it DOES require a strong sense of sexual security...
     
  18. kouryuu

    kouryuu Kouryuu

    That lets me out then, mine's soooooooo diverse :eek: :D
     
  19. saru1968

    saru1968 New Member

    spelling?

    Should that not be perverse?
     
  20. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    Nope. It sould be perverse, but the nail slipped out and it changed it into another word.
     

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