Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by K¡a¡, Jul 1, 2007.

  1. K¡a¡

    K¡a¡ Valued Member

    Hello everyone, i have a question?
    Has Dr.Soke Hatsumi, ever talked/wrote about theory/idea about circles?
    Anything about them with training or otherwise?
    I'am serious about this question this is not a joke.

    I ask because i think i might of accidentally stumbled on to something.
    Not sure quite what.
    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2007
  2. bencole

    bencole Valued Member

    Do you mean three-dimensional "balls" or two-dimensional "circles"? ;)

    If the latter, keep going until you come to the former. :love:

    -ben
     
  3. K¡a¡

    K¡a¡ Valued Member

    Thanks BEN!
    That was very helpful. :p
     
  4. baldrick

    baldrick Valued Member

    Soke spoke about the sign outside Takamatsu sensei's restaurant at the Norway (?) Taikai in 2002. It was a circle with a line through it.

    Sensei spoke about it in relation to becoming zero and then dividing that by half (half of zero)

    I think i grasped a little bit of what Sensei was trying to get us to understand, but if any one else was at that Taikai they might have a better handle on it than me.

    Dave.
     
  5. K¡a¡

    K¡a¡ Valued Member

    Hmm...
    I wonder if he was referring it to the in/yo ?
    " A circle is suppose to be a perfect shape, we do things habitably with in a circle, people we talk to and associate are within or outside our circle, atoms, nutrons, cellular structure are circles,
    Isn't the happo no kamae a eight directional stance within a circle" Etc....
    Interesting :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2007
  6. Paragonfortytwo

    Paragonfortytwo Resident Wierdo.

    Maybe he just wanted to see how many people chased their tails over it.
    What's half of zero? Or infinity?
    :confused: :D :cool:
    Jen.
     
  7. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    Ze and Infi.... :D
     
  8. koyo

    koyo Passed away, but always remembered. RIP.

    I am a traditional aikidoka and may offer some food for thought (pick your brains). Happo giri is a form of standing (within a circle) and by a simple turn of the hip being able to engage anyone attacking from anywhere on the circumferance of the circle. I was told that our art aikido or aiki ken is executed from a triangular posture rather than the circular movements often seen. When I said that this meant that there are no circles in aikido movement I was told that the circles are there BUT they have no diameter.

    regards koyo
     
  9. shadow_ronin

    shadow_ronin Banned Banned

    Zero or a circle has no beginning or end. The InYo of distance has no beginning or end.

    The zero is cut in half to represent heaven and earth, over and under, in or out, in or yo. (Good and evil)

    This is a decent explanation, and i've heard many others. But if you ask Hatsumi Sensei he will just laugh... because you still don't get it.

    Could be a joke...
     
  10. Paragonfortytwo

    Paragonfortytwo Resident Wierdo.

    Maybe he was just having a Yoda moment.... :cool:
    Jen.
     
  11. Senban

    Senban Banned Banned

    There's no such thing as a circle. Such things are illusions. Think of spirals instead. ;)
     
  12. K¡a¡

    K¡a¡ Valued Member

    Are you absolutely sure about that!
    Search further, you might get some very startling results.
    I did!!!
    :eek:
     
  13. TasheDelek

    TasheDelek Valued Member

    Be careful of associating good and evil with in and yo.
     
  14. shadow_ronin

    shadow_ronin Banned Banned

    It was just an analogy to demonstrate the idea of two sides.

    Maybe a better analogy is the two poles of a magnet, negative and positive.
     

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