Sometimes it's hard to tell specially given the communications medium. My argument is simple, neither TMA or MMA adequately prepare people for serious street fights. Just take it for what it is, a good workout, and the possibility of a 1x1 fistfight in a semi controlled environment ie. some college kid picks a fight on campus, etc. It's not practical to train every now and then (perhaps once a month minimum) with your street clothes on? To allow hair pulling in training? Or permit groin attacks? I wear a groin protector and have no objections to any such attacks, and most folks cut their hair so short you couldn't pull it anyway. I don't think those and other training methods are too much of an inconvenience when training for self defense. Nothing wrong with training in MMA or TMA for that matter, I train in both 2 days a week each, and 1 day a week on my own with an occassional partner. What I've been saying is that 1. Just mixing up a few styles and calling it MMA isn't necessarily effective regardless of environment. 2. Neither adequately prepares for street fighting anymore than military training adequately prepares one for real combat. All it does is boost confidence and provide some basics, there's no substitute for real life experience. There is a Rickson Gracie affiliate school 30mins away. Visited a few times. 80% of their training is on the ground, the other 20% is training to take the opponent to the ground. They don't say you may find yourself on the ground, they say you will. That 95% of fighting is on the ground. Bull. I've fought plenty of times on the streets with an eye towards not going to the ground because I've seen what happens to those that do. Does that mean that at no point in my life have I ever trained in ground fighting? No. Simply recognition of the danger involved in finding oneself on the ground in a street fight. Am I advocating not learning ground fighting techniques? Absolutely not, but if all you have to fall back on in the types of street fights that I've experienced in NYC is BJJ training, then get ready to die. I can't put it any more bluntly.