Videos of Steven Seagal teaching Aikidō in Russia

Discussion in 'Aikido' started by Big Will, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Yes well in many Aikido organisations the technical grading syllabus stops at 3rd dan or there abouts. So what are the ever increasing numbers of high dan grade Aikidoka doing to "earn" 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th dan grade rankings? And remember, currently the highest grade is 10th dan.

    It should be very difficult to achieve 4th dan and 5th dan. 6th dan and above should be so hard and take so long to obtain they should be considered life time achievement awards.

    I trained at the same club as the guy in the video below. His 1st dan was pre-ordained because he was being groomed and pushed out to start a club. The last i heard he had been promoted to 4th dan in 2010. So that's 1st dan to 4th dan in little more than 7 years with a free pass to 1st to get him on his way.

    Where do I buy your brand of coolaid. It does wonders for your perception of reality cuongnhugirl.

    http://youtu.be/wVHjar8oF7U
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2013
  2. cuongnhugirl

    cuongnhugirl Banned Banned

    Apparently Aikido has a very different grading standard from Cuong Nhu. There are only a select few masters in my style.
     
  3. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    Hannibal!

    Down boy!!!


    :evil:
     
  4. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    I didn't know that about Aikido, but I suppose it's the same in all arts really :(

    1st to 4th in my brand of TKD is a minimum of 9 years for example, assuming you take every grading ASAP and assuming you pass every time, neither of which are in any way a certainty.

    I always thought Aikido took its time and suffered less from this kind of thing than other arts.

    Edit to add: could you stick up or point me to a good Aikido vid please Wolfie? I've always had a soft spot or the art but most YouTube stuff looks terrible.

    Mitch
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2013
  5. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    I think you'll find that opinions as to what is good Aikido will vary just as much as opinions as to what is good karate! :)

    From my perspective, this is good Aikido (which is not to say that all of it is practical in the form it is shown here). I've been Uke for some of his students and you don't hit the deck because you want to.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjlRotayW2U"]Aikido - Tribute to Tamura Shihan - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEUVjTu4iFc"]Nobuyoshi Tamura Sensei - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    What is good karate! Tae... Too easy ;)

    Just the first few seconds of the first vid look more convincing. Strikes are incorporated, movement is circular, arms are bent, movement pulls in to centre, etc etc.

    What I watched of Aiki's vid showed a guy with straight arms and no strikes pushing limbs down then walking around. If my TKD students did that in the VERY limited vertical grappling we do I would think it mechanically poor, though it's hardly our forte so I hesitate to offer that as meaningful comment.

    Mitch
     
  7. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Actually Aikido is more susceptible. Especially the ki orientated variants. My own videos are pretty terrible. Look up some of Koyo's stuff.
     
  8. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    That was close...the cheese nearly slid right off my cracker at that last one!
     
  9. LemonSloth

    LemonSloth Laugh and grow fat!

    Thought I'd post a couple of my favourite Aiki videos :) :

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MIVo68o6Sg"]Tissier Bercy 2005 HD - YouTube[/ame] (Shihan Tissier, I'm very fond of).

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGDtWQRmFSI"]Aikido Gozo Shioda Demonstration Part 1 - YouTube[/ame] (Shioda Sensei, in my eyes one of the best practitioners of all time)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4gTZjSqJc"]Aikido, The Samurai Spirit - YouTube[/ame] (last video, it's always fun to watch)
     
  10. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I can see where the quality control shines....

    http://youtu.be/WPLKwlB4fIo
     
  11. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    I'm sure everyone has an off day.
     
  12. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

  13. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I am sure...isn't it just unfortunate that a "Master" and a "Grandmaster" had an off day at exactly the same time

    Is it akin to women menstrual cycles coinciding if they live together...?
     
  14. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    everyone. :cool:
     
  15. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Don't you start. :D
     
  16. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    That was the most bastardized adaptation of the Philly Shell I have ever seen. At least they are moving about and getting exercise . . . . I guess . . . . :star:
     
  17. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Can you point it out to me? :evil:
     
  18. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    The bloke with the cane wandering past is clearly awesome... :D
     
  19. Count Duckula

    Count Duckula Valued Member

    True in general, though Steven Seagal earned his in Japan, the hard way.
    When it comes to aikido, he really has the skills.
     
  20. Count Duckula

    Count Duckula Valued Member

    If I sucked that bad, I'd be damn sure not to let videos of me in action out on youtube.
     

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