Trump by name......

As long as we're sharing youtube videos:

 

That has a minimal effect on tactical use now days, thank the cold war for that. A missile would ony contaminate so much, and then the U.S would probbly get some good humanitarian aide from the U.N even if a couple hit it. I dont know how badly it would effect the U.S economically, but the casulties would probbly be minimal from one hit as the population is spaced out. Look at city density list. North Korea looses the game no matter which way you look at it. No point playing the if or but game, it really depends where one hits and how big it is and what type.

Also, a fitting song:


[edit]Yet another song, not too sure if it fits or not unless you belive Canada controls north korea, even then its ehh. (may have lnaaguge i dont remember)

 

The UN exists so that countries who dislike each other, can talk to one another instead of fighting each other, if you think that's wussy, Then maybe you should be volunteering to be in the first wave of people obliterated in the upcoming war.

 

If the UN is meant to serve as restraint on threats to the world, shouldn't they be looking at censuring the US?

 

Whos going to do that? The U.N doesnt have a military. Its relatively toothless from what i heard in what it can do. works a hell of a lot better than its predecessor, but still.

By the way, LoN was made as aresult of European total war and the U.N was as as well. Europe for the win.

 

That's kind of my point - we can either value it as it's current incarnation as a place to facilitate dialogue, transform it into a global government, or look at it as an extension of US interests.

We are one of those countries currently calling for another countries' destruction; apparently some Americans are perfectly OK with bemoaning the UN's lack of action against those countries while praising our leader for doing the same.

 

You forget, the U.N exists to control the U.S and support the FEMA genocide in wake of Hurricanes.

It will become a tool to promote anyones interests as it doesnt have the power to do anything without a member state backing it up or agreeing to take part in a Coalition. (or making a coalition)

I am by far not educated in the U.N what its power is, i just know its toothless as its not a military force. And yes to soem degree you do get the repated "the U.N is good and works for good" in schools and such, you dont have to study politics to know there is no good or bad its just relative to you.

 

North Korea is likely to fire more missiles after Trump’s speech, experts say

I thought this was a good article about the potential ramifications of Trump's UN speech, both for noting that 1) Trump has explicitly threatened the people of the DPRK 2) The value of that propaganda for the DPRK and 3) The role of the Iran deal in all this.

 

Its probably provocation so they have a excuse to use them in anger. Would paint a better picture if the U.S invaded to counter Communism and enforce the will of fake Korea wouldnt it? Rather than North Korea being the aggressor.

Dont know why anyone is that worried, North Korea doesnt have enough nukes to plunge the entirety or even the entirety of the U.S into a radioactive wasteland, its basiclaly hear say past they may have some and cpaablities are estimated and fsctually unknown. For North Korea to attack the U.S is like it fighting a bear with a pocket knife and somoen with a gun (china) would probbly shoot them instead of the bear. XP Especially if it nukes them.

Im kind of ranty about people making a largely theorizedd and unknown issue into doomsday for the U.S and World. (dont drag us down with you, you are the one they hate the most. XP)

There is no good response, i wish people would stop being so critical over something whcih has no good or acceptable response. It just has a response. The best resposne for violence especially if you are the U.S is to say we can do it better than you.

I will read that article tomorrow if i remember.

 

Kim: 'Deranged' Trump will pay for speech

And it looks like publicly threatening meglamaniacs doesn't work.... Who would of thunk that.....

 

'A rogue' and a 'dotard': Kim Jong-un's statement on Trump in full

KJU's full statement.

And now we have trump fans actually saying, in all seriousness, that nuclear war isn't that bad.

 

Me too!

 

How utterly human that the end of civilisation could be ushered in by two idiots that should have been laughed out of holding any responsibility at all on the ridiculousness of their haircuts alone.

 

How is he going to make trump pay for it in the slightest? Its like a short person trying their best to convince everyone they are tall.

Doesn't matter what path the war takes, North Korea will loose and pending south Korena involvement the Korean peninsula may get ruined.

In Theory the missiles can hit i dont remember what U.S city and there are anti ballistic missile systems put in South Korea now. So its a question of how many nukes they have, how many they shoot, how many make it into range of an anti balisitic missile system and how many if any make it through its protection.

Sometimes there is no substitute for a war and aggression usually leads to one. (especially if you poke the geopolitical equal of a bear)

Only North Korean Civilization. And then thats finate and would be annexed by South Korea as thats the leading country with a legitimate claim on it. Haircuts aside none of them are Boris Johnson.

 

If you think global nuclear war would only effect the civilisation of North Korea you're living in La La Land.

 

It's not just about the US and North Korea.

South Korea, China, Japan and Russia are all right next door.

You are looking on it as a zero-sum game, it is not.

 

If you think it would cause it, you are living in La la land. There is no MAD its jsut the destruction of North Korea.

SOuth Korea doesnt have nukes, China is not supporting North Korea and is tryign to rein it in and the Russians haven't cared what has happened there for some time now, they are not allies of China or North Korea. (the Russians and Chinese havent been since the 60's i think, they will protect each other like they would invade each other, but have no obligation either way)

At best China might get involved like it did last time because it doesnt like a U.S ally or forces too close to its borders, but then they are supporting the motions of reining it in with the nuclear tests. But they are on their own vs a country which has grown its military strength since they last fought and overal has better military tech. Not including allies.

Japan probably wont, Japans weird for wars now days. Unless they are attacked by somone and it wont be China in this instance.

 

The use of one nuke by North Korea, or even simply their conventional weapons, would result in millions dead. They easily have the capacity to wipe out Seoul using non-nuclear weapons. You keep conceiving of this as a war that someone wins - it's not. The death of millions, on any side, represents an unacceptable outcome to y mind.

I can tell - that's not the scenario I'm discussing though, so you're largely tilting at windmills. The point is avoiding large scale death.

It's really not. Casual threats about nuclear weapons sends a signal to all countries of the world. That's a threshold we shouldn't cross without considering every other option.

Why bother responding if you have no idea what I'm talking about? Read the article, then let's discuss.

 

$3bn in exports isn't chicken feed. Someone's going to be a wee bit peeved if that is wiped off the map.

Maybe South Korea, China, Japan and Russia might not appreciate being irradiated if the US nukes North Korea, either.

Not to mention the very fact of letting the djinn out of the bottle. Do you think the rest of the world will just shrug and forget about it if the US exterminates millions of people with nuclear weapons?