The Rataca's questions on TKD thread.

Those are unhealthy - and if you aren't actually doing anything about then what knowledge you do have (or claim to have) is a popcorn fart

From what you have posted earlier I know where you live in terms of the city

It really is not bad at all - statistically it is VERY unlikely

You lack the ability and experience to make these judgments - so stop doing so

"MMA that shall ot be spoken of" - why?

Again less talk, more do!!

 

Actually boxercise would be perfect for you, no feet on display, no uniforms, and it'll make you a bit fitter.

 

If you eat more then you burn off, then you eat too much.

Either do more or eat less, or really just do both.

It's not rocket science.

 

You cannot outrun the kitchen table

 

I looked at it, did a trial, it is a joke and a Mcdojo. At least the group i went to anyway, and if the Tuesday one was good, that is illogical for it to be that diffrent in the same two weeks. Circuits where ok but everyone and their mother does circuits and its not worth a monthly payment on a contract.

 

Thats funny, the first time i have seen/heard that one.

 

Good, then where is the problem to start?

You obviously have a computer, you have internet.
Open a document on your computer, write down what you have eaten, add the calories.
And now explain again - why don't you have means to track it?

If you know about dieting, as you said, you also know that the main factor in losing (and also gaining) weight lies in the caloric intake.
Sport is much overrated.
Especially if you say right away, you don't like exercising anyway; you'll find a way not to do it.

And how it looks you also found a way not to start losing weight.

Which also have calories.

You could start never leaving the house again in fear of the outside.
Or move away, if it's that bad.

You get belts, or should anyway, for the whole syllabus not only for a part of it.
It's that easy.

I, and many others, want to learn a whole system and not only pick out the interesting parts.
I also want to keep teaching and, more important, get better at it, so it's another point for learning a whole system.

If I were to only want to punch and kick, I would go to Kickboxing.
Oh, wait...

Some schools do, others don't.
You attend a club, you do as they say.
It's a about discipline and respect. But I know you have problems with that.

Never been to a club, that made you follow rules outside of said club.

Maybe ask the associations or the instructor to make a grading syllabus only for you, so you don't have to work for something?
Seriously: So you have to learn a few Korean names or some numbers.
Big deal.
If that's a problem already, maybe you should look for something else.

Personally I wouldn't use Kata for muscle memory during a fight.
Wrong way to move during actually fighting, hikite leaves you open, ...
But, hey, you mentioned you can spar, so you obviously know that.

Because light contact (I think that's what you mean? Never heard "light contious") is only petting the other and kiss the ouchie away?
We only do light contact as well, but we clearly feel the blows and kicks and have prove to it.

Easy then.
Join one, train what they tell you, learn what they want you to learn.

I am fully aware of what introversion is.
And only because one feels uncomfortable it doesn't mean that this person can't go there.
The person decides not to go there, because (s)he doesn't want to.
(S)he is fully able to do so, just decides against it.
It's not like being forced not to go or being unable to go.

 

Point for you, I admit that.
It's the TKD curse I have: I keep forgetting that throws and all the such are actually part of TKD, despite the WTF trying to castrate it; like others do with Judo.
At some point I need to travel near Munich to meet one of the old school Judo teachers, that still teach .... well, old school Judo; with punches and all the fun

I also do admit though: Even with knowing some part of different Kata (I asked my Sensei, what some movements were, when he was doing Kata for himself; was very, very interesting and I'm not sure I would have find out at that moment alone), I hardly know that much.
I only know that I learned to hate to have my arms down, because no matter when, I need to expect a light slap from my teachers, just for being there

We really should speak about Kata at some point!
Or Poomse? Hyongs? I know you have written just recently what you do (I think it was the ITF forms), but, as usual, confuse the names.


EDIT: Read the posts in the wrong order:
I agree 100% on what you say about discipline and motivation.

At times I'm not in the mood either to have the little ones to train, especially when I know certain ones are there, who just don't want to.

But I keep doing it and once I'm there it's usual fun; and when it's not it's not the kids fault

Same with gradings: When I worked for my third Kyu I was so sick of most of the techniques after some months, but it was also the first time I really wanted to attend a grading at that certain date, so stopping wasn't an option.
Despite moving places and so much things that also wanted to be done; some of them more fun then drilling the same stuff over and over and over...

 

I cant use my laptop as scales, it wont work out my muscle density, fat density etc. If i wanted nutritional advice i would be aksing on the MAP board or be consulting the NHS web site/doctors.

I am stuck with two TKD schools, which would share a very similar sylabus, not much of a choice.
The kick boxing would be similar to TKD fighting and wont go into full contious fighting. (something which would at least have some use if you wanted to do defence things)

Rant below, you have been warned.

Spoiler

I probably wont bother to learn Korean from going to TKD, its not a good way to learn Korean, there is a lot more to learning a langauge and you might have to actually want to learn about its culture/be intrested in its culture to learn said lanaguge. (culture should be part of the eucation anyway) Unless somone there is a B1 level Korean and can work you throuh lanaguge like you would get if you did a language class. Apart from goign to Korea (which i am adamant would be useless what you might learn if you didnt put actual effort into learning the lanauge) its useless. Bowing has no cultrual place in the U.K also, neither does any aspect of Korean culture. I would not bother to insult what ever culture it is by learnign snipits with no actual interest or need to learn about it. For ideology, it might be more relevant with younger/more impressionable students, if its not able to leave a impression like that, then its worthless to learn as it has no impact and is a waste of time to memeorise past the formalities. You can do disipline without having to learn choice Korean or repeat a oath or tenents. The only reason Martial arts not native to say Europe have come in is due to the lack of native ones that have not gone to sports or existing anymore. That and blame hollywood and fads with what the new style/best one is. When the dojo doesnt have a single Korean in it and its not in Korea its kind of pointless to bother unless somone expresses interest. But thats a pet peeve. Like i stated it was a null point for me, unless i failed because i didnt want to learn Korean.

Excuse the tangent though that was pretty ranty.

Yeah, and with that i am off for the night before the inner soemthing comes out, feel free to omit the spolier tag. (please put it in spoilers if i got it wrong)

 

To be honest, "my" Karate has new Kata, and I only "know" the Heian Kata from videos or when my teacher did them, when I started (so not much memory there, since I was busy hiding ).
I learned the Heian Shodan for myself, when I was Uke for my Senseis grading, so I could work on a better "Kata-movement", which I needed.

Also: Be veryyyy careful, as I could come over anytime I like.
All of my teachers were glad, if I'd do that (personal development and all that) and would understand it, if I would miss training due to being a bit farther away

I'd seriously do it right away

 

@Rataca: Scales, unless very expensive, won't give you proper numbers on fat and the such anyway.

And not having a scale is no reason not to start losing weight.
You have eyes, don't you?
You have clothes. that suddenly will be more loose.
Or clothes that will suddenly fit again.

So the scale is just another excuse.


Regarding learning Korean: I haven't read all of the spoiler, because the format is horrible.
So I only read the first few lines.

But: You are not to learn the entire language.
They might expect you to count to ten and learn some names of techniques, punches, kicks.
That's not even close to learning a language and you don't have to have an interest in the culture for that.

It's just some names you need to learn once.
One can start making a fuss about nothing, or one can start and learn a few names over time.

 

Scales/ a accurate means to track weight loss improves yoru ability to stick to a diet as you cna observe smaller results, it would be a while before you drop a clothign size, and i for one dont take indulgence in staring in a mirror. One Kilo off is not that much all things considered especially if you dont examine your body. So, if i start a diet as i have scales and start doing TKD /exercise i would have better chances of sticking to it.

It is still pointless to do in the grand scheme of things when everything else is in English, there are other ways to discipline.

 

Funny how read the screen always gets, when I quote you...
You can already notice a lost kilogram, but how the clothes fit; I'm not talking about sizes here.
And if you need an applause for every single kilo it won't make things easier.

And you're free of having that opinion.

But you join their club, so they make the rules.
You don't want play that way, don't go there.

If they say you need to know Korean terms for your grading, then you need to know them.
Period.

 

Being introverted is really just an excuse to yourself. I am introverted, too... It doesn't mean you won't enjoy a fun activity... I know a really shy girl who came to our karate class, too shy to talk almost to anyone or to really comfortable try any technique. But she opened up after a while and is much more confident and cheerful. You're introverted and pessimistic? It's more like another reason to go.

If, as you say, you eat realatively healthy, but just eat lots of sweets, the diet will probably work even without any means to track it, just dropping the sweets. Or eating less ans less of them. Exercise would help too, it would be best if that would be more than once a week, though.

I get you had some TKD experience before. Not sure for how long, though. Just give the kata a chance. You never know what you'll enjoy in the end. But, really, as Latikos whote, I hope you aren't going to attend a class and sit the kata practise out. I suppose it is not what you said, but still, try not to think the kata is bad before you even try at the new school.

 

Everyone but you....
Seriously though, if it is a MA class, it is quite likely they'd do circuits once in a while, but I doubt it's going to be every class.

 

Nah, one of the things marketed was exercise, so the beginning was a exercise class then the last part was a "martial arts" class.

I wont sit the kata out, i probably wont be convinced it has any purpose any time soon though.

Also i think i may have missed some posts etc by some people last night or responded in a awkward order from when i viewed new posts, so if i missed one, sorry.

 

Well, exercises are part of MA training.
Would be more weird a class, if that weren't the case.

Just mentioning the next one: If you only do kata half-assed be not surprised in case you have to wait quite a while for your first grading.
The clubs I visited had the rule, that you have to attend classes properly, if you want to grade and achieve something.
Oh, and regularly.
Let's not forget attending classes regularly.
Otherwise - tough luck.