Southampton uk systema

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by uksystem, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. Istvan

    Istvan New Member

    Hi Guys,

    ukSystem: can I ask what is the main purpose you wanted to try out systema only in your area?
    I maybe can help if you do not mind to travel down to London time to time.

    i can agree with Hannibal`s statement: "Pick a credible, proven discipline, train in it and get good.... this is much more efficient and will yield results"

    just to feed my curiosity:
    Can I ask people who has opinion (good, bad, low) of Systema had ever practised or maybe active practitioner in a systema group?
    If you had practised: how long?
    Is the teacher knowledgeable martial artist and/or skilled in Systema ? Why do you think that?
    Is he/she good/bad teacher? Why do you think that?
    How accurate you judgement on his/her level if you haven`t practised Systema for a period of time yet?

    All martial arts good if it resonates with you and you keep doing it for a long time, when you feel it improved you as a person, built your self-awareness, higher stamina, skill set, more focused on tasks, gave calmer nervous muscular system under stress etc....
    Search the best for you and practise, practise and practise!
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2016
  2. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Hi

    I studied systema when it first arrived in the UK
    Many of my contempories from the Bujinkan started training under Vladimir and Michael - Paul Genge is still active in systema for example

    I liked the modernity of it, the use of modern weapons, wearing street clothing and so on
    I also liked the spontenatity and some of the training drills were good I think. Examples are: coping with getting a kicking on the ground from multiple people and the methods of absorbing strikes

    It was early days for the style in the UK so everyone was still working on the basics and I felt that it would evolve into something interesting, but at the time it wasn't there yet so I didn't stay for more than about a year

    To my mind there were four key issues that people had to work around:

    1 - People study quite specific ways to avoid/absorb strikes etc and quite a lot of the style uses these movements against the opponent.

    2 - The lack of pressure, coupled with the lack of defined drills can lead to some people developing unrealistic techniques

    1 & 2 are common to all styles to some extent, it's always a question of degrees\

    3 - Distancing: The style tends to work in close ranges and uses redirections/absorption to great effect. This approach is the same for unarmed and weapons training, which, in my view isn't optimal when considering weapons

    4 - Psychic powers. There was quite a lot of this going around and, in my view, the phenomenon is grossly misunderstood and the applications were useless

    I know that Paul Genge has stuck with it and introduced a lot of pressure testing and his movement is awesome. So clearly there are people who can use it very effectively, but I do see quite a lot of people doing strange and unrealistic techniques too
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2016
  3. stevieb8006

    stevieb8006 New Member

    For the record, MKG now have their own gym and its thriving every night. The best gym in the city IMO. Great instructors who offer a wide variety of classes. They cater to everyone very individually. Southampton has a great martial arts community. Lee Morrison does a weekly class for combatives and he's the best in the WORLD in his field. The teacher at Southampton school of tai chi is renowned up and down the country, people travel from all over to learn from home. Alan Gibson (wing chun) is a gent with a superb reputation. It's prob the most 'effective' WC u could learn. Trevor Birmingham from Exile is winning world titles if you want to learn BJJ. Jamie Jewell is an amazing karataka.
     

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