Some questions about striking

There have been a few things about striking that have bugged me recently and i need enlightenment.

The first is: Does anyone have any treatises/sources on the bare-knuckle boxing era of boxing? I only have the treatise "self-defence for gentlemen and ladies" and perhaps the bartitsu ones on my radar for that.


The second one is about open hands: How do you practice open handed striking on a punching bag? I have hurt my wrist trying to figure out a good way to strike a flat surface for practice and since some of you do and teach open hands perhaps you could help with that. I know i need to angle it but i didnt figure out which angle works. (by hurt i mean it just hurt my wrist for that day and i stopped after i hurt it)

Third one ties into the one above, is there any particular way to throw them or position your fingers/hands?
I can do a chin jab my way and thats about all i can say i do properly.

Cheers for responses, i will practice it on my punching bag tomorrow some time.


Edit: Fourth question, if i have been punched in my hand and it stings on contact a day or two after is that an indicator of any damage in said hand? Hypothetically of course. The particular part would be the top just below the knuckles.

 

Cant ask until, actually i dont know when.

I think around 3 weeks after the last time i went.

I was thinking about that just after i posted about the open hand things, but i dont know how much they would know about using open hands.

 

I dont belive it teaches white belts open hand techniques, i mean for a step sparing kind of self defence thing i got told a open hand was acceptable to use but its not like they asked me to pad work with it. Its punching which is taught more often but im hesistant with punching because of the whole breaking your hand etc. I will ask next time.

I was talking about palm strikes, i had no issue with any chopping i did on my bag when i did it. I only really hurt my hand when i was trying to figure out how to do a palm strike on a vertical surface, i kind of purposely put myself in a position to figure out if it could be done, wont be doing that again(curiosity). Until i did that i didnt have any real pain apart from what you would expect hitting a bag.

edit: i should be clear, when i use the word open hand i mean palm strikes. At least in the above.

 

How about actually going and attend training?
So you can ask your instructor?

And how do you know, what they show whitebelts, if you hardly ever actually go?

You always claim you trained already and aren't a beginner therefore, so why did it never got shown to you?

So many questions.

 

I will ask and see what comes of it when i go again. I am confident i have most of a palm strike right though, i just need somone to watch and tell me where i go wrong and a second opinion.

I get the point, i have to say i am not the cocky one, i do most things the instructor tells me to do, there are some i disagree with and are stuck as habit which wont go any time soon though, i will relay how it goes after i ask. Sorry, i have edited this post quite a lot, it may appear blunt.

You and me both.



Would you all agree if i said i am at the crossroads of if i can do something or not? I have to see if i can make a video of me punching for actual opinion of it.

 

You can't palm strike a heavy bag effectively because it's shaped differently to someone's head/body.

To strike effectively you have to hit 90 degrees to the centre of mass and surface, which you can't do with a bag, as your wrist is in the way.

So you've quit TKD already have you.

 

Nope, the instructor i am used to went on holiday and i am starting again when they get back to look at the place they are going to.

I need to get one of those BOB torsos for this.

 

Remember that thread where you were given advice about wrapping your hands and that you would definitely injure yourself? The one where you were told that hitting the bag wasn't like hitting a human. The one where you were warned repeated bare knuckle strikes to the bag as a newb was asking for trouble? The one where you said you were going to listen to that advice and where Deadpool predicted that you would ignore it all and be back posting about how you hurt yourself? His magic 8 ball was on form it seems.

 

I don't understand the response, but my point was the following (not it gets more direct and blunt): You hardly ever move your behind to attend your classes.
Why should your instructor bother to show you something that's not entirely basic.
You don't even spend time on basics, because you're so advanced.

Surprise: You are not.
Otherwise Dead_pool wouldn't have needed to explain, that a punching bag is differently shaped than a head/ body.


@Knee Rider: Not really a surprise, is it?

 

Nope, i hurt my hand doing palm strikes, i was going to bring that up as funny to me.

I do though, i will go intoa few i know of: The toe kicks and kicking with the blade(?) of your foot. I also share some degree of opinion about punching for self defence and palm strikes being quicker and safer to learn and being just as good. I also have some viewpoints on their theory of power which i need to look into further. To say i have no knowledge or all of it wrong would mean what i have been told and feel about the toe kicks is wrong etc etc.

 

Yeah, you hurt yourself striking your bag without protection and ignoring all advice about how a bag isn't a body etc.

 

We said don't hit a bag without wraps and proper gloves, you did so and then hurt yourself.

Palm striking a bag is still hitting it without gloves and wraps, it's also super dumb.