So I was attacked...

Discussion in 'Aikido' started by TheLastDancer, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Not sure I agree, surely the art is a combination of a curriculum and training methods?
  2. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

    id agree to that, the point still stands however.
  3. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Perhaps weapons and/or armour may be a consideration in some of those pins?

    Anyway, on the subject of what makes a martial art, I thought I might as well post this I saw yesterday: Stephan Kesting's interpretation of Dan Inosanto's trinity of martial arts:
  4. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Valued Member

    yeah it's probably a lot harder to draw weapons when you're lying on your front.
  5. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Yes this plays a big part in TJMA pins

    Predominantly pins were used to hold someone down in a way that:
    1 Prevents them from using their weapons on you (remember that historically they carried a few). Typically this means face down, and
    2 Gives you enough time to either draw your own weapon or to cause sufficient injury to stay safe. Typically TJMA forms end with drawing a weapon, a kick/strike or crank after a pin

    Another important consideration was to retain freedom of movement, which creates a trade off in terms of how firmly you can secure someone down

    So the objective is not really to hold someone in place until help arrives

    Of course chokes are used liberally in TJMA too, but I'm separating these from pins for the sake of this discussion
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
  6. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Nice - thanks

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