Minimum requirement for self-defense (physical side of it)

Discussion in 'Self Defence' started by EdiSco, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. Matt F

    Matt F Valued Member

    Like it or not I try not to just go off belief.
    So my judgment on anyone is very simple. I either see them fight or see them function for real or I go train with them and find out.
    Very very simple.
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Yet you have NOT done a SIM Day but speak polemically about it - an inherent dichotomy with your above statement n'est pas?
     
  3. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

    Hannibal, impressive background! Don't blame you for escaping to Canada from the UK. I was flabbergasted when I learned there is far less crime in Canada than UK...
     
  4. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Much, MUCH smaller population density too
     
  5. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    I'm very tempted by Canada myself at the moment. Can't face the wrench of moving the family I don't think, but if I were younger and didn't have kids I'd be seriously considering either there or New Zealand.

    Mitch
     
  6. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

    I've thought about New Zealand a few times too! Amazing people. Scotland is pretty awesome too though.
     
  7. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Grappling!

    Landing awkwardly from blocking a suplex attempt.

    Was gonna say tho, should be healed in time for a Sim day.
     
  8. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Thinking I might make the move to train in Tristar if I get good enough/win enough.

    I have family there. It's an option that's always open to me :)
     
  9. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    I looked at Calgary....then saw the snow :eek:
     
  10. SWC Sifu Ben

    SWC Sifu Ben I am the law

    Cold is better than hot. In the heat there's only so naked you can get before Hannibal comes along with handcuffs :D
     
  11. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    Yeah,but you also get the biggest rodeo in N. America.

    Wooopie-ty-yi-yo!:woo:
     
  12. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Stampede is awesome
     
  13. Matt F

    Matt F Valued Member

    It seems to me some people can adapt sport to the street and some can't.
    Those that can't try to find something else.
    Good luck, I hope they find it.

    I also wonder how guys like Rickson Gracie or Bas Rutten are viewed from this SD perspective of competitive fighting and training not being as good.
    These guys have done the business outside and in and have SD elements to what they do but don't teach law or have 'expert ' law abilities, etc and they concentrate mainly on the physical and do and have done perfectly well in adapting what they do to SD. There's lots of others like them too.
    Being in the same bracket as them and taking that approach , it seems crazy anyone would say they are they not getting it right until they do SIM days haha.

    It may seem extreme but virtually everyone anyone could name in the fighting/SD area who has been seen fighting or it's obvious when we see them move or function they can and have fought, has, as a foundation, a basic ability to fight from some kind of full contact system or from fighting in some capacity.
    They then use mindset to make it dirty, violent and adaptable to whatever is going on and needs doing.

    It's a totally legitimate approach that can and has been proven
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017
  14. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Then what they teach is an incomplete self defence system, even though they can clearly fight.

    Those that don't want a complete system seek something else it seems.
     
  15. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtIPkyGm4g

    Rickson talks about SD etc here.

    really knowing the law is essential for anyone who trains.

    its the difference between going to jail or not, for not a massive investment of time.

    YMMV
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017
  16. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

  17. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I ran a few Animal Day sessions when I was a BCA Instructor....They are fun but intense
     
  18. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Always great seeing Rickson move, but a couple of things stood out to me in that video:

    1. It's easy for Rickson to say "don't leave like a chicken", but in terms of SD for normal humans it might not be such great advice! ;)

    2. I was really surprised at how many basic things Rickson had to explain to that black belt.
     
  19. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    1) being able to stand your ground and choosing when to flee is an important skill, flee too early and you may provoke the chase reflex, plus socially you cant do that every time and not lose social standing, which for social violence will invite more, especially in a very macho culture like Brazil.

    2) That's the entire deal with Ricksons invisible jiujitsu, really really good fundamentals. Plus jake does that with everyone.
     
  20. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    clang........

    was that before or after you competitively fought the current UFC Champion Michael bisping?
     

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