Is Aikido A Martial Art?

Discussion in 'Aikido' started by mdgee, Oct 21, 2014.

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  1. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Training partner had no trust in me. I betrayed nothing.
     
  2. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    Complete and utter bollocks.

    His safety was in your hands as was yours in his.

    You ignored that fact just to stroke your ego and make no mistake that's exactly what you were doing in that clip.

    Not only did you do this thing but you lack the backbone to accept responsibility for it and have tried to use it to score points online.

    On top of all that you also make the rest of those at your club look bad by this type of behaviour, so you have betrayed their reputation.
     
  3. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    Ok then. :)
     
  4. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    One reason people make such a big deal out of seeking out instructors with integrity is because martial arts are a dangerous activity. You place your personal safety in the hands of your teacher and training partner, so what do you think it means when your training partner decides to pee all over that for a bit of nob waving?
     
  5. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    It means I'm done. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
     
  6. bassai

    bassai onwards and upwards ! Moderator Supporter

    You obviously are , your "attack" was unprovoked and inappropriate , when I , and indeed anyone I respect , has taught it's always been made clear that you only hit someone if there's absolutely no other option , and this is absolutely hammered home to kids.
    To share a story of my own , In karate we do short drills called ippons that are very similar to the kind of thing you were demonstrating.
    I was on a course with sensei Kawasoe going through ippon kumite , at the time we were doing a dead simple one , tori steps forward with jodan tsuki , uke defends with age uke chudan gyakuzuki , ukes punch should always be pulled at the point of contact , much as your tenchi nagi should have gone over his shoulder rather than through his face.
    We were doing this in a "bicycle chain" and I clocked my next partner was sinking in his counter punch and hurting his partners , so on the next change we bowed and he proceeded to to use me as a punch bag , when it was my turn to counter punch I decked him with my first shot , when he got up I said "understand ?" he nodded and we carried on in a more "traditional" manner , though I'm not overly proud of hitting him like that , I was pleased to see he was much more polite for the rest of the drill.
    I think you were very lucky that the kote gaeshi he demonstrated next was so polite.
     
  7. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    I'm closing this thread temporarily as it is going off topic and is in danger of becoming a heated debate. I'll look at opening it again once some other moderators have had a chance to review the content.
     
  8. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    All of the above.

    I'm honestly stunned.

    When we train we put our trust in other people. Icefield makes the point and the distinction perfectly.

    Deliberately injuring someone who has given you that trust is the egotistical action of a spoiled child. Dean makes that point very well too.

    Personally, I will never train with or teach a session involving someone who views the safety of others with such disregard, whether that be in my own club, at seminars or MAPMeets.

    Mitch

    Edit to add: In some ways it is an abuse of my Mod powers to post on a locked thread like this, for which I apologise. However, I was away and without access to MAP when this was posted and wanted to make clear that
    1. There is no MAP Mod consensus on this, we are individuals with different views.
    2. As an Instructor I would not want any of my students to feel threatened in a compliant situation when they have placed their trust in another. I will not be seen to condone that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2014
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