Is Aikido A Martial Art?

Yeah sorry that's what I was getting at.

Doing it deliberately during embu is not on, especially when your reason is just to embarrass your partner.

 

Especially if that fence is shakey and fill of splinters

It may have been a accident or lack of control, but we have had this.

Afterall, in the dojo, that is where we learn from accidents and develop control, which is why it is called "practice'

 

Keiko is not embu.

To deliberately deck your partner is such an instance not only reflects poorly on you but, and this is worse, also reflects poorly on your teacher and Dojo.

Never mind it being basically a betrayal of trust, something that is very important in what we do.

 

So, was it deliberate or a accident?

 

See above.

 

Sorry my iPad is playing up and it's mucking up copying so moving quotes around is a pain.

 

Actual science on the subject matter or a discussion thread on a forum. I wonder which we should believe?

 

Do you consider martial arts as an appropriate thing to be teaching children?

 

I know this was aimed at Simon but I certainly do, with the proviso that just like with adults it may not be suitable for certain kids.

I do wonder though why you ask that in response to Simon's criticism of your behaviour?

 

Hmm

The BBC discussion show did have things to say about ''correlations'' between what was happening in the brain and different levels of penetration of needles into the body. Yes there is something to that but it doesn't validate anything.

I have studied with teachers who do acupuncture where the skin is only slightly punctured and te chi is never elicited. I have also studied with others that will insert a needle in 10 cm and make the te chi almost too strong for the patient.

Acupuncture is like martial arts.. there are many schools, many techniques and an inexact transmission of knowledge. One of my teachers is convinced that the majority of acupuncturists have no idea where the proper acupuncture points are. On the other hand a colleagues research did show some improvement in OA knee patients irrespective of which points were needled as long as te chi was achieved.

Results are soooo variable. You can't take one study of one method under on set of circumstances and generalise the results to acupuncture as a whole.

You have done the equivalent of saying Yellow Bamboo will couldwin fights because the Gracie's were the UFC champs. One does not jump quite so quickly to conclusions in neuroscience or medicine.

Just sayin'

LFD

 

I'll admit, I haven't delved too deep into this topic so, sorry if this is useless...

On another forum I take part in, this was mentioned - I'd be interested in folks point of view in the context of this thread...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nQBkfdteZM&feature=youtu.be"]Chikara Nuku - Robert Mustard Sensei - 7th Dan Yoshinkan Aikido Shihan - YouTube[/ame]

 

Hitting people in martial arts is bad it seems (except Aikido doesn't work because nobody hits anybody). But that's what they're taught to do all the time in martial arts classes. Dress it up as "appropriate training" as much as you like. But the reality ends with teaching kids how to hit people and hurt them. And we encourage them to get good at it. They're given rewards. Belts, badges, sashes, certificates and trophies. And their parents love it all. Anything for an hours peace and quiet while they go shopping.

Maybe martial arts aren't appropriate for children. I vote we outlaw the Ninja Turtles, Ben Ten and the rest.

 

Absolutely. One study in one documentary isn't much. But it should carry more weight than a discussion thread on a forum.

 

Nope, I didn't. At the end of the day children in martial arts classes are taught to hit and hurt each other. Are you denying this is the case?

 

have you been drinking or are you deliberately missing the point here?
Let me try to keep it simple for you
hitting people in martial arts is good, doing cheap shots on someone demoing for a family day out is bad
lets try another one, hitting someone during sparring is a good idea, hitting someone who is demoing a prearranged movement and who leaves himself open because its a demo is bad and cheap
now is that simple enough for you??

 

This has got what to do with your behaviour?

You basically suckered your partner during an embu, try and deflect things as much as you like but that's what you did.

You betrayed the trust we have with our training partners and your actions reflected poorly on those associated with you.

That's it, nothing else, nothing to do with the morality of kids learning MA or anything else. Just your conduct on the day.

 

Then I guess I'm missing your point bassai.