FAQ - Can I Teach Myself Martial Arts?

Discussion in 'Beginning Martial Arts' started by aikiwolfie, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    What about at 2, once they've learnt to walk, amongst many other complex skills?

    I'm still not getting why wrestling is more innate than any other way of fighting.

    Flailing limbs is innate. After that, trying to discern between innate and learned behaviour becomes incredibly nebulous. Not just for humans, but any primate and many mammals.

    I need sources before I'll accept this assertion.

    And, are we defining the palmar grasp reflex as "wrestling" now?
  2. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Also, I am very interested in the distinction between learning to control the extremities and fighting.
  3. Kave

    Kave Lunatic

    No, but it does suggest that grabbing (which is an important component of wrestling) is instinctive. Most strikes from very young children look like failed attempts at pushing by someone who has little control over their limbs. This is quite different from striking as an instinctive form of rough-housing or fighting.
  4. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    But the palmar grasp reflex is lost after 5 or 6 months of age.

    When kids wrestle, it looks like a failed attempt at wrestling, when they strike with hands, elbows, feet or knees, it is more likely to elicit an effect. When they use an improvised melee or missile weapon, it has an even greater chance of eliciting an effect.

    Kids do all of the above.

    What is your reasoning for asserting that wrestling is somehow more innate?
  5. raaeoh

    raaeoh never tell me the odds

    I posted all the science I need to know. Some boys are pure natural graplerz. My Daugher was born to kick. I don't need to have a.PhD to know that most of this argument is BS. Kids will.do what comeshe natural to them. Some strike or grapple even use blunt weapons . Others are pure scholars. I work with kids.have 3 of my own. One of them is the best dirt eater you will ever see.
  6. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    And this is exactly what I see in students; some take naturally to using their arms or legs as weapons, and some take naturally to grappling (and some are natural dirt eaters :) ).
  7. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

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  8. Dario86

    Dario86 New Member

    nice post!
  9. GotYourPants

    GotYourPants New Member

    Alright, I know I *shouldn't* try to teach myself, but I just can't help it. I eventually want to compete in MMA. I don't need to learn anything too fancy, but I really want to start working out the kinks in my most basic striking moves. The only local martial art I could take is Tae Kwon Do. I took it off and on for years, and if I'm staying in the area, I'll start going again, but I got really discouraged by the bad reputation TKD gets. There are virtually no striking strikes with the hands. The round kick is fast, but weak. I've been trying to relearn my round kick in the Muay Thai style, but it feels really weird. Anyway, even though I'm sure I'm adding tons of flaws into my muscle memory, I've at least made some rather significant headway, for instance actually shifting my weight when the move requires it.

    So I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to make the best of what I have available. I've just been looking up several different opinions on how to do each move, and sort of blending them together in the way that seems best suited to me.
  10. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

    Your options are,
    1) Travel to train or
    2) give up or
    3) book an MMA match and get a kicking.
  11. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Valued Member

    If you want to compete in mma you need to be training one style of striking, and one of grappling. No ifs no buts no "I can't afford it" or "It's too far away". If you want it badly enough you can train. Stop drinking, get a job, get a mode of transport. That is what serious people do. Otherwise you are just fantasising.
  12. Xanth

    Xanth Valued Member

    TLDR: Yes you can, but you will undoubtedly teach yourself bad habits and re-invent the wheel. Start with a few arts and learn their foundation, then experiment and see what works for you...only then, attempt to see if it also works for others.
  13. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    If you wanted to compete in tennis tournaments, would you learn badminton just for now?

  14. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    If there is nowhere suitable to train the style you want, you have 2 choices:

    1. Train whatever is near you, at least you will learn correct techniques and timing.

    2. Don't train in a martial art for the time being, but work on your strength training, conditioning and cardio so when you can eventually train these won't hold you back.
  15. Petson

    Petson New Member

    Amen. There's nothing to add. I was trying to teach myself at first, but it doesn't make sense without someone who will introduce you to basic.
  16. Dave Sing

    Dave Sing New Member

    Nowadays there are lots of websites and video tutorials online from professional coaches and fighters. I taught myself boxing and martial arts first then I started to enroll in a local gym. i've become a well-rounded fighter quickly and till now I'm still learning more by myself than the teachings of my coaches :)
  17. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

    Have you competed yet dave?
  18. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    the key is to make a dualism of failure/completion..or otherwise attempting not to make a mistake..

    but mistakes are ground into the formal Earth of the world..which is where roots come from..!!\

    So what in essence am I trying to say but the key is within you..someone else can point you too it..but there is no reason you cannot understand as good as they can..and in fact...it will only be you via the formula E=MC2..which means energy is the non transferance of matter..which is energy in wave formation..which is mass..at the swinging of the arrow itself..or otherwise electron..proton..and neutron..123..so to speak..
  19. Simon

    Simon The Bulldog Admin

    So go training?

    Cool, glad we're clear on that. :eek:
  20. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    bold, to confront the object of lore..which is winning vs losing..you can feel this like yin and yang, circle philosophy, aikido..has a relation to the circle..but the Juijutsu, is formal and commonly Brenchant.. Which is penchant necessarily.. and then and therefore..I am an Adam..means I have the first rite in the fight..so what I extend will be winning..and therefore the winner is Adam!

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