I love the tomoe nage into a mount- never thought of trying that but will definetely try that out when i have the opportunity.
Chadderz, do you think Judo is as good as wrestling for effectiveness against a fully resisting opponent? IF that makes sense. I'm finding a lot of sources saying Judo's not as good as BJJ or Wrestling. esp. in a RL scenario.
Wrestling is better. Attacking the legs makes it much easier to take someone down. Shooting is way more effective in general.
No, not really. Because there are a lot of rules restricting the physical movements you can do. Wrestling has similar rules in terms of rhythm and attacking mentality but it doesn't limit the techniques nearly as much. Wrestling>Judo as a supplement grappling art.
Whereas I'd like to add, that it depends a bit on the club, doesn't it? If it only teaches the restricted stuff, that's allowed in competitions, it surely castrates itself. But some clubs still include things, that aren't allowed in competitions anymore. And some do real old school judo; I wish I had one of these schools close to me!
There are a very very few clubs teaching "freestyle judo" which is a grass roots movement in he USA teaching Judo as Kano taught it. As it stands now youdo honestly be better with BJJ & wrestling. The techniques are not as refined as either art separately. Although I agree, I'd rather learn freestyle judo than the current rule set.
I also heard Rick's starting a new Judo class on Sat mornings from someone who trains at my boxing gym. Is it going to be "freestyle judo" do you know?
Just regular judo, no randori. All just drilling throws I think. New wrestling class starting though.
Oh, I agree, most schools teach for competitions. I'm lucky enough, that my teachers includes techniques, that aren't allowed anymore; but we're only a hobby group, not competitors. We have a rather known instructor in Germany, but he's far away from me I hope, he gives a seminar a little closer to my place, because I would love to meet him. He also started BJJ, is loving it, and combines the two. I could drool all over my keyboard, if I keep writing, so I better stop EDIT: Also, as not to hijack the thread: Good work, as far as I can tell. I really like the second video and the fact that you keep working on the ground. Reminds me a bit of a kraken, really. You're seriously all arms and legs
I didn't know you were doing judo! How're you getting on so far? I actually hate it when people say to me "oh you're all arms and legs". It's like "yeah but I kicked your butt because I'm just better at jujitsu than you are. I didn't beat you because I'm a little bit more flexible." It drives me nuts
I can only go to Judo once/ week and didn't go for a while, because I helped out at our Dojo. That has to change, because I need Judo to get better at throws lol I'm afraid I'm rather bad at it. Most of the other students being around 30kg heavier doesn't exactly help either, even though that's not the reason I'm bad. When doing randori and I'm trying to go into a throw I usually break up to soon. For two reasons: I think it wouldn't work anyway (but apparently at times it could, according to the partner). And with other throws I don't dare doing them, because I'm concerned to hurt or even injure someone. Which is rather stupid since most of them do it longer than I do and weight more; so I probably end up hurting myself before them BUT - I decided to keep working on it and want to get better finally! So I hope the best. And of course you win, because you are better. But you're still all arms and legs. Looong arms and legs. I hate people like that, because I'm small, misshapen, with weird legs and big feet I do like my feet though
Competed again today. Won 2 and lost 1. Everyone on the podium had the same result so it came down to individual points. So a guy I beat got gold Decent performance but if I want to get better at judo I've a lot to work on.