can u break boards?

Post the description then if you would, wasn't there.

Ours are about same size but look way denser, like punching into cement powder.

I'll punch a tree anyday, that's nothing, but obviously breaking boards is th3 d34dly that is so often portrayed in TKD

 

So, now you saying a Thai pad is harder than a tree then?

And I personally, never said breaking boards was "th3 d34dly" (as you put it - Im sure thats a Bullshido term btw).. just that a pad (thai or not) is not harder than wood.. because it er, padded!!!

Oh.. and trees dont hit back either! Its funny that you slag off breaking as a waste of time, but punch trees as part of your training!

 

Hmmmm, wood is hard but not dense(among the kinds used in breaking), don't know if you're aware of that or not, I'd say no, I'm a Carpenter among other things and so can verify that is a solid 100% fact. A pad filled with a high density resistant material will out do wood anyday, will be harder and tougher to make an impression on, but obviously you already know that.( consider as if you are striking concrete mix)

th3 d34dly is not a BS term as I'm aware, I avoid that forum cause it's filled with the stupidest people in any MA, only the trash go there, the people with little intelligence. It's a catch all phrase for Bull S in any MA as well as a sarcastic joke.


And yes, sorry to say it, breaking is a big slag, a major waste of time, it does not teach properly, it is not realistic, it is BS, I do Iron Palm and we would never do something so phony as that for our training, but not all people care for realistic training so...

 

Over here we use parana pine, not sure if its the same where you are, but I understand this is a "soft wood", though a 2" piece is pretty solid!

No pad that Ive seen (commercially sold) has a harder surface than wood! Older pads can get solid.. I once had a kick bag that had "dropped" (ie. gravity had made the lower part solid) and it was similar to how you describe, like concrete mix.. (I have an old pair of focus pads that have gone solid as well) but this is not the same as pads people buy, but an exception.. unless of course they have modified them some how! All things being equal size wise.. Id rather smash a thai pad over and over than a lump of wood the same dimensions.. and I guess most clubs would as well, hence why they use them!

My bad.. its the only place Ive seen it posted regularly.

Funnily enough, I typed "Iron Palm Kung Fu" into google (images) and many pictures show stylists doing just that! When you say "not realistic" what are you refering to.. realistic of what exactly?

Stuart

 

Solid yes, dense no

Never said anything about a pad being harder, I did say it had greater density, you can break a board but something with greater density takes/absorbs more force without breaking, the force I would use to break a board our pads will absorb and I'll only make a slight dent. For me to increase that I am reuired to develop greater force, the pad and density represent a human body far better than any board does.

It's all good

I'm sure you did, some people like to show off and not all of those were from Iron Palm, breaking is not the object of Iron Palm training, it's direction of energy and conditioning.

Instead of breaking boards, we hit hot sand or use canvas bags filled with mung beans, rock or steel shot, and again there is some leeway in the bag so that it represents a human body better than a solid board.

 

Does solid not equal hard then when it equates to wood?

You said "Thai pads are far tougher than any board will ever be" - though open to interetation to the casual reader to that would probibly mean harder.. not denser.. in any case I disagree all things being equal!

Well thats the idea of a pad!

Well I wasnt really refering to a board.. just wood and padded pad!! A single board will of course break, thougha thicker piece may not.. resulting in more pain/injury/etc than a pad would! (unless of course you have conditioned your hand)

Whose said a board represents the human body? Is this what you meant by "not realistic"?

Cool.

I never said it was the onject of Iron Palm training, just repsonded to when you said "I do Iron Palm and we would never do something so phony as that for our training" when clearly other iron palm practioners do, after all, you did say "we"!

I know of Iron palm and conditioning methods a little, though I dont feel a non-moving object filled with rocks or steel is representative of the human body either, if fact, bone to bone contact seems more akin to bone to lump of wood to me.. though I feel a heavy bag would is better.. though of course thats another discussion altogethor!

Either way, this is a much more interesting discussion than saying "breaking boards is a waste of time" without adding some reasoning why you feel that way, perhaps even giving a few others some alternative ideas, though breaking and conditioning have different aims IMO. Oh, and Ive been a round a while in martial arts so saying things like I dont have a clue what Im talking about etc just cos I dont agree with you is a bit silly as I dont chat about things havnt experienced!

Stuart

 

He did it ... I'll vouch for that

(hey I'm directly under your leg sitting at the table with my camera in that pic ... unfortunately I don't have a pic of your 9 board )

 

Just going on when my club starts to break boards...it is from white...I just had my grading on 3 March 2007, and double graded to Yellow, but I still had to break a board (Front Kick)...went straight through quite easily....quite njoyed it actually....Although I was a White Belt. I am alot older than the 5-6yr olds going for their yellow tags....I think 1 of them tried to break it, but did not manage....no other white belts tried...

 

Broke My First Black Board!!

Had a good breaking session last night and broke my first Black board with a side piercing kick, not bad for a blue tag!
Well chuffed.

 

Hey congrats, whereabouts are you training?

 

Heh. Reminds me of my school's Open House breaking demonstration.

Was supposed to break the board with an axe kick, but somehow broke it on the way UP with my heel.

Bloody confused about that for weeks.

 

I can break boards, yes.

 

But can you break dance?

 

Can I... yes. Do I... not any more.
I've been able to break board since I was 7 when I had to do it for a TKD test.

Need I bust out the Bruce Lee clip or for what I'm guessing is probably at least the 5th or 6th time in this thread?

 

What about "breaking wind". When you can control this, that is true mastery

 

The more I get to experience breaking (albeit rather minor compared to many others), the more I have to disagree with old Bruce. If you don't hit the material you're trying to break just right (e.g. with sufficient accuracy, power, and focus), yes that sucker will be hitting back.

 

You necro'd a 5 year thread and THAT'S the post you necro it with?

 

There should be an "insta ban" on asshat necromancy.....thread necro is bad enough, but if it is just that sort of cack then you deserve to be fed tin foil and cotton wool and made to chew

 

In the school I went to, that broke boards, you could blow on them hard, and they would break.

It wasn't until my black belt test, that I had to break a concrete patio block, and I went and bought it.

I bruised up my right hand pretty badly, because I got no instruction, just a, "be careful, don't break your hand"
:Alien:

 

Image removed. Trolling.