Britain also has trump supporters?

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  1. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I think that's too nuonced for these numpties, besides....
    British library says otherwise

    Britain's unwritten constitution
    "Unlike most modern states, Britain does not have a codified constitution but an unwritten one formed of Acts of Parliament, court judgments and conventions. Professor Robert Blackburn explains this system, including Magna Carta’s place within it, and asks whether the UK should now have a written constitution."
     
  2. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Not codified, but it is written. It is simply the sum of laws, which are written, just not written in one codified document. If you have all of England's laws written in front of you, you are looking at a written constitution.
     
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  3. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Things are only extreme until they become acceptable, for example look at brexit / trump / David Davies etc
     
  4. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    If you write down all of an oral tradition, is it still an oral tradition.....
     
  5. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    But English law is not an oral tradition. Every law, and every president interpretation of those laws, are written.
     
  6. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Regardless, sexual freedoms were not generally something afforded to many people living in Communist countries in the 20th Century. Many "extreme" leftists thought homosexuality and gender fluidity to be bourgeoise indulgences that were harmful to society.
     
  7. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    I'm referring to people participate in or advocate no platforming and a pc authoritarianism that seeks to prohibit thought, language and open debate.

    I dunno if that fits any existing definition but it's what I mean when I use that term.
     
  8. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    That's what I thought.

    I wouldn't personally think of identity politics as particularly left wing. Probably the opposite, to be honest.
     
  9. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Yes, but they're not an explicit constitution.

    It's a minor point, but it is an important one.
     
  10. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    So your saying it's OK to use racial slurs?

    Being PC with language is just being polite, and there's nothing more British for being polite.
     
  11. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Yes, it is a minor but important point.

    Thing is, it's the opposite of what you wrote above!

    It is explicit, just not all in one document. All constitutions, and laws, are subject to legal interpretation, just look at Supreme Court rulings in the US.
     
  12. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Maybe :)

    It's authoritarianism and idealogism essentially: I don't know if that is the exclusive preserve of the right or not. But it's hard to distinguish in execution.
     
  13. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I'd say that's because there isn't really a left wing anymore. Not an extreme left wing, anyway.

    Ain't no-one wants to give up their individual freedoms for the good of society anymore! :D
     
  14. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    I think that it's not ok to be racist and that racism should be confronted.

    I have no problems with the words themselves.
     
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  15. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I do think it is very worrying that some people feel so vulnerable that listening to an opinion they find objectionable is viewed as an assault on their person.

    People should be protected from targeted abuse, and people should have the right to protest people they disagree with, but when you're so fragile that you can't even hear a differing view of the world I think it is a sad and infantile attitude to life.

    Having said that, I'm not bothered about who is or isn't allowed to talk at universities. Whether we like it or not, they are businesses, and students are their customers. It should be expected in the capitalist model of education that these kinds of things will happen.
     
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  16. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    There's the argument that it gets racists out in the open too, I'm not overly a fan of being over pc, but I'm a fan of being polite, and many of the anti pc crowd are essentially just upset they can't use slurs anymore.
     
  17. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    An excellent point.
     
  18. bassai

    bassai onwards and upwards ! Moderator Supporter

    They attempt to explain .......
    Twitter
     
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  19. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Oh wow.

    The Bill of Rights... the document drawn up when we invited a Dutch bloke to rule over us. I guess they are pro-EU then!
     
  20. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    It's a great interview isn't it!
     

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