Britain also has trump supporters?

Sadiq Khan heckled by Trump supporters during gender equality speech

This is quite frankly amazingly depressing....

 

"He then accused the Fabian Society of "subverting" the constitution."

The UK doesn't have a written constitution.

It's the racist equivalent of a flat earth society.

 

Britain First fan who drove van at London restaurant owner walks free

Indeed there's a nasty minority in Britain, who have been enboldend (I would say enbiggened, but I'm actually serious) by brexit / the rise of trump.

 

It's pretty damning of modern Britain that we are producing individuals so clouded by inarticulate rage and so lacking in the intelligence and emotion literacy to reason through their feelings of disenfranchisement; and that frequently political discourse on both the left and right does nothing more than fan the fire and entrench existing belief and prejudice.

The far left are smug, intellectually condescending, moronic PC authoritarians, the right are myopic, uncompassionate, moronic, bigots. The rest of just get to sit in the middle and inhale the toxicity.

If these cretins in the video were only the worst of what we spawn (they aren't) then still I'd see nothing to be so vehemently nationalistic about whatsoever. Whoever can stomach the UK is welcome to it.

 

Whilst the extemed

Do you think the middle ground has moved further right during the last few governments, or do you count your middle ground as unmoving?

 

I think right wing views are far more visible in our society. Particular prejudices and fears around national identity, security and employment appear more pervasive than perhaps they once were (or have been during my adulthood). The way discourse is carried out and framed gives these views more legitimacy than I believe they deserve and via that mechanism I believe what you could term the middle ground is indeed being pulled towards the right.
With that said there is a significant pull to the extreme left also happening within certain demographics and I think there is an increased sense of polarisation between two opposing attitudes that leaves me feeling caught in the middle at times.

Emotional reliance on the accepted truisms of a particular ideology for the purposes of identity building and self soothing never engenders good debate and makes people scared to explore ideas and truths for fear of backlash. I see that happening more commonly so I think both extremes are drawing people who are turned off by the opposing politics.

My girlfriend is a huge proponent of politicised posting on social media and believes in the validity of engendering debate but the amount of personal strife she receives from it is ridiculous and includes long term burnt bridges with family members.

We live in a post truth era were people can argue for whatever they feel better about devoid of fact or information and in such situations conversation is often a fruitless cyclical drudge through ad hominem and projection. The media doesn't help and is usually full of visiting and polemic.

 

*baiting not 'visiting'

 

You can add to that people just don't like changing their mind, a good example. Of this is the flu vaccine, it's incredibly safe, and works around 40/60% of the time (so it's important to get as many people as possible covered with it!) and upto tens of thousands of people die every year of the flu.

And the uptake of the vaccine by those in healthcare is super low.

Provisional analysis of death registrations - Office for National Statistics

Why do NHS staff not get the flu vaccine?

 

There is a perceived bigger split recently, the voices of far left/right are a lot louder and they feed each other.

The amount of friends and family I know that never voiced opinions on hot subjects now feel they are enabled to make stronger statements about their opinion, and no matter how rational the discussion is they cannot move from their beliefs;
in most cases that immigrants are steeling our jobs, claiming benefits whilst not working etc, the classic "right wing" view.

It appears through the current climate people are becoming more enabled to stick with their more extreme views. Which feeds others of the same opinion.

 

People shocked that woman who would sleep with UKIP leader twice her age, is tasteless racist

Well this made me laugh!

"As revelations appeared that the UKIP leader Henry Bolton’s glamour model girlfriend wrote derogatory and racist comments about Meghan Markle, people are surprised to learn she isn’t a tolerant demure woman bristling with intellectual curiosity."

Whilst I'm not a fan of the concept of royality, I do think the Meghan will be a great princess! It'll also annoy the hell out of the troglodytes!

 

What are you classifying as "extreme left"? I didn't think there were any extreme leftists around anymore.

 

You used to call gay rights, transgender issues etc the extreme left, nowadays it's
Mostly just the middle ground!

 

Actually, I think that sexual freedom was more the reserve of the libertarian right.

 

Twitter

Re the "white pendragon" on an interview being asked what they want.

Warning, viewers who enjoy logic may feel confused afterwards

 

Did the UK have a libertarian right?

Section 28 was definitely a right wing thing.

 

England does have a written constitution, it just isn't codified into one document.

Having said that, presently that includes all EU legislation, so maybe these Arthurian numpties are Remainers?

 

An interesting read
Section 28 - Wikipedia

 

I was thinking a bit further back than that, like 18th Century libertines.

I would say that Thatcher's government was authoritarianism masquerading as libertarianism.

 

The labour party had been purged of all "extreme left" members by then.