Attacked at home

Discussion in 'Self Defence' started by Simon, Feb 26, 2016.

  1. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    This is a great analogy, with crossing the road- easier to related to for those who have the fortune of not getting involved in any violent situations.

    I first came across the code when reading Geoff Thompson books; even after experiencing a handful of incidents I had loosely developed my own version of this, but this visualisation was easier for me to relax with.
     
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  2. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    There are some, John Titchen for example, that don't like Cooper's colour Code, but in HAVOC we use it and on a very basic level I find it really helps students understand the difference in awareness states.

    I've used the road crossing analogy for as long as I can remember and mainly because it shows how you can change awareness states without necessarily going physical or getting into an altercation.
     
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  3. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    I have a question, do you have a spy hole in your door? Or does that relate to being in code white? (or do you now have a spy hole in your door)
     
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  4. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Good question.

    I don't have a spy hole, but they are a good idea.

    You can also buy doorbells now that have a built in camera, enabling you to see who is at the door from a smart phone.

    Some even have a speaker, so you could tell someone you are in the bath, so can't come to the door.
     
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  5. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I was thinking about this thread recently when I moved house, we now have a peep hole, chain, and reinforced deadlocked door, and I'm putting in an interior bolt in the next few weeks.

    It's unlikely to be ever used, it's a reasonably good area) but the outlay is minimal considering the potential consequences.
     
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  6. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Good idea, Dead_pool.

    As you have a family on the way it's one thing you won't have to worry about.

    It's self defence 101. Little changes make a big difference.
     
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  7. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned


    Not saying anyone in my house uses the spy hole in the door, but i think more hosues in ym town have them rather than not, may have been a standard thing when the council upgraded everyone doors. The improvement of the house i am in is next to none due to it being rented from the council. :p


    Also idea, you can buy brackets to go either side of your door which you can put a plank of wood in as a poor mans/ghetto deadbolt. You can also buy aluminium shutters that you can use as a interior shield should anyone actually break into your house. (steel ones work just as good ,but they are more noisy from what i hear)

    Edit: Rataca the security system door salesman. :p

    I am also a fan of keeping a object to use as a weapon by the front and back door, i know the legal problems with that, but it doesnt have to be a machete or a cricket bat you could keep a heavy ornament near it for use. (personally cant put a weapon near them anyway)

    edit2: They also have anti-arson letter boxes, if you can both afford and have room for the box to fit on the interior of the door, its a good purchase for future security.
     
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  8. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Rataca100, it surprises me that your live in a council house, (I grew up in one, and there nothing wrong with it at all) I thought you were dead against anything socialist?
     
  9. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    Most people live in a council house, the private market around here is expensive from what i see in the estate agents. Im also left leaning cnetrist which means i support some collective policies. :p I technically classify as a Socialist.

    The council last year or the year before just put exterior insulation on most of its houses. Since its made of brick with no interior wall to run insulation through they had to put it on the outside of the house. (prior to that, no insulation was on the house)
     
  10. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    A socialist nihilist, I think that technically makes you a stalinist!
     
  11. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned


    I go by Ghandiist. :p

    Inside joke because on the political compass i basically score on the point where they put Ghandi.

    Edit: PM's are open if you wish to enqire more.
     
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  12. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    I have a spy hole which I use, also frosted glass so I can get an idea of the numbers/sizes.

    If you cannot afford a bell cam, it's cheap to plug in a webcam and use software to broad cast internally. I set mine to email me on motion, and I can also view from a different angle.

    It's also piece of mind that if anything happens I have it recorded and uploaded.

    I don't bother with weapons close to the door, sticks and similar sized weapons are difficult to use from a confined space.
     
  13. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    Sounds like jumping bandwagons to me.

    As for spy holes: I always use it. Even if I know, who is supposed to be coming.

    But in all honesty: I'm not using them solely for security purposes, but also to just know who is there and if I really want to open (I don't open when it sales people, and am careful if it's someone I don't know - not for security reasons alone, again, but also because I don't like strangers and can hardly talk to them anyway).

    And that's pretty much everything I have.
    I don't lock the the door, I just shut it (not sure about other places, but here doors can't be just opened this way), and I don't have additional locks either.
    But I also don't live in a warzone, so that's enough here.

    EDIT: Also: I live in a flat, not my own house.

    And I don't have anything weapon-like close to the door. Chances are it gets used against me anyway.
    One could argument though, that my sticks from training are close, as they're always in my bag, and my bag is sort of close.
     
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  14. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    I live in a house with my wife and children, not a medieval fort.
     
  15. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    :D
    You mean you don't have a moat? Where's the perpetration in that?
     
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  16. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I was literally about to post that!
     
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  17. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Ratacca, we tend to treat the self defence forum a little differently to many of the others, especially when it comes to the advice given out.

    It's clear that a cricket bat and heavy ornament could both do harm and you've said you can't put a weapon near them (I assume you mean an attacker).

    A cricket bat and an ornament are both weapons if you pick them up and intend to use them to defend yourself.

    Don't give out advice unless you are clear on the implications.

    Don't pick up a weapon unless you know what you are doing.

    We did have an anti-arson letterbox fitted.
     
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  18. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    Oi, thats stereotyping, i have a portcullis and that's all. :p

    (my dream house is a honourary bunker, should have metioned this before starting.)

    You won't be laughing when Saladin comes back from the grave!


    I meant in my situation i cant/dont keep a weapon near the doors. So my actual experience in said advice is limited. Noted for the rest.
     
  19. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award


    Saladin was a pretty honory chap, widely respected at the time by both sides.

    Saladin - Wikipedia

    I'd much rather him then Khan (Genghis or Noonien. )
     
  20. vaysh

    vaysh Banned Banned

    You can get one that alerts your phone when you are out so you can answer and pretend to be in.
    It also allows you to view what’s happening outside if you hear sounds.
     
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