Aikido v Japenese Jujitsu

Discussion in 'Aikido' started by TheCraneMan, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. TheCraneMan

    TheCraneMan New Member

    Hi guys,
    Ive been reading alot about these two styles, they seem very similar, both Aikido and Jujitsu involve, Joint manipulation, locks, holds, throws, grappling, weapon defence, and multiple attacker defence, So which one do you guys reckon is better? I currently train in Boxing, and looking to combine this with either Aikido or Jujitsu, CHEERS!
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Judo or BJJ would probably blend better with your boxing
     
  3. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    +1

    although if i were to choose the two you mention, it would be aikido.
     
  4. dentoiwamaryu

    dentoiwamaryu Valued Member

    Depends if you find a good Aikido or JJ school or bad one to be honest
     
  5. robertmap

    robertmap Valued Member

    Hannibal - I think design, manufacture and use of tactical nuclear weapons would be better - but that's just MY PERSONAL PREJUDICE !!! (Who says I can't be subtle).

    TheCraneMan - go along to classes and watch (and if possible try both) there is no 'BEST' only a best for you...
     
  6. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    What exactly have you been reading?
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Meh

    Boxing is pretty aggressive an hands on and structurally blends better with the two arts I suggested....and I have JJJ pedigree (of sorts - 2nd Dan gendai), so whilst yes it is an expression of a preference I did not just pull it out of my hat :)
     
  8. Lad_Gorg

    Lad_Gorg Valued Member

    Why is that you specifically want to train in Aikido or JJ?

    If you just want some grappling skills, then listen to Hannibal, Judo or BJJ, and I'd add Western forms of wrestling (freestyle, Greco-Roman etc.). If you want a more genuine Japanese MA experience, then well, pick either.

    Ju Jutsu is a massive topic, I'm not really qualified to talk about the specifics, but from what I've gathered it can range from mostly grappling, to weapons, striking, war tactics, and the whole sha-boom depending on the ryu. So depending on your city you may, or may not, find what you're looking for.
    Aikido has a fairly poor reputation in pretty much every MA community. From most exchanges with Aikidokas I get the impression that it's more of a philosophical MA than a hyper-effective-kick-butt MA. So for gathering good grappling skills, better to take Judo IMO.
     
  9. evva

    evva Valued Member

    Jujitsu all day long, akido takes years to become effective at it.Im not saying its non effective just that it takes most practioners far longer to pull off the moves effectively and more importantly practically.

    As others have said find the right school, as thats most important,better to be good at either style than bad at either.
     
  10. Grass hopper

    Grass hopper Valued Member

    I was once told by an aikidoka that aikido is useless unless you have martial arts training. And that even then it takes like five years to become good enough to use any of it.
     
  11. Zabrus

    Zabrus Valued Member

    I would choose Dayto Ryu Jujutsu.

    (ok, sorry for the nerdy ma joke)
     
  12. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    Surely you mean Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu.

    :eek:

    What is it these days with everyone trying to blend this with that and that with that and whatever. If you're at a proper boxing gym and you haven't gotten to the club level of fighting... then put on hold any dreams of being a mix master. You won't know enough about boxing to make heads nor tails of mixing it with anything else. Seriously. This is a constant thing on MAP these days... I want to mix this art with this art. Seriously guys... become proficient at one thing before you start trying to build the Millenium Falcon of martial arts.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2012
  13. Zabrus

    Zabrus Valued Member

    Aye, but I went for the older name to make it a bit less obvious :evil:
     
  14. St Matt

    St Matt Valued Member

    Both aikido and jjj have some very similar techniques but the way you do them varies. Aikido came from jjj but alas the hippies grasped aikido and have tried to turn it soft. Some aikido schools are still good tho and still train in a martial manner that is effective. Aikido isn't the quickest art to learn but it doesn't take years and years like some say. It just comes down to how you train!
     
  15. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    I think we should keep in mind jjj encompass a number of schools that take different approaches to martial arts. So it's not really very helpful to say Aikido comes from jjj. Aikido more specifically has DR to thank for most of it's heritage within which the concept of aiki was well established before Aikido was ever conceived.
     
  16. St Matt

    St Matt Valued Member

    But is DAito ryu not a form of jjj?
     
  17. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    It is. But not all jjj adopt the same approach. DR adopts the aiki way of doing things while other systems seem to adopt more of a crush and cover method.
     
  18. St Matt

    St Matt Valued Member

    Well I am certainly no expert on the differences but going back to the OP's question the styles are similar in many ways and both can be powerful arts depending on how you train.
     
  19. mattt

    mattt Valued Member

    At the end of the day it comes down to what you want to learn and who is available to teach you based upon convenience.

    If there is a fantastic JJJ teacher who spent 20 years living in Japan 3 miles from your home and a blue belt bjj 2 miles and you'd rather not travel the extra 5 minutes then bjj is your answer.

    So it comes down to you, not an answer here, and what is close to you and what you consider 'close' means...

    Post up a shortlisted of clubs and you might get a better answer.
     
  20. Zabrus

    Zabrus Valued Member

    Both arts have similar techniques, one difference is in its circular moves (of the hands, arms, etc): JJ has smaller circles, Aikido's are bigger.
     

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