Hi koyo , do you mean when sensei was finishing the kumitachi, say on ichi-no-tachi. Do you mean when sensei moved back on that last move and defended he cut straight to the head? If yes then its what we see as a henka. I do it alot. The basic is to step back only a little on the last defending movement and cut straight through your partners ken so you have caused a triangular deflection using hanmi,awase and kokyu. you should finish this as though you are thrusting the ken staright after defending, hence why they are pushed back to the start. But both father and son have stated this is only an exercise to develop good strong posture in the hips and arms for good kokyu. its a form of tanren training, goes back to when osensei was teaching tanrenuchi in iwama when he and saito where striking buches of sticks (now tyres) while facing each other, he said that when you strike tanren you should be thrusting forward at the same time in your mind, so you never look at the tanren but instead straight ahead through your partner as that is where your spirit is going. The way you where staught koo is the way you would move with a live blade, sensei says you would never do 5th awase or kumiatchi attacks as we do them with the bokken as the blads would snap, instead you just step in and kill them when you have decided to end it. God does that make any sense what im trying to say is one way is using the bokken as a bokken with sword principles another is using the bokken as a katana, i try to practice both ways.
Thanks again Dento! That has cleared that niggling question up for me. I will practise on line in the dojo where Itrain but will work also on off line training by myself. Regards Teddy Bear
Cool mate, if you enjoyed those vids of sensei thereare more in the aikido resourse section under saitosenseis website.
Hi Dento In fact Saito shihan entered instead of moving back(all of the kumi tachi). It brought the attacker to an instant stop and then he was made to move back even further. I think it has been changed for safety sake. I remember Saito shihan getting very angry when students tended to train too fast. Once a boy was struck and we were made to train in the manner you describe. Funny story involving Saito shihan. I was training in the san ju ichi no jo kata and Saito shihan came over and through Stan Pranin told me my jo was rubbish. I thought the next remark would be get on a bus!! Then Saito shihan took my jo and gave me his.It was the jo he was speaking about!! (well that's my story and I am sticking (oops!) to it. A true gentleman and a great loss to the aikido world. regards koyo
I've looked at them a couple of times and found them very interesting. I was really pleased that the dojo I'm currently training at isn't a million miles away from the stuff on the clips. I always had a preference for the Iwama way of doing Aikido with it's strong connection with weapons. Cheers Teddy Bear
Ye i see what you mean. I dont know if its been changed for safety, it may what sensei was working at the time you studied, i dont know maybe it is safety, it sounds like normal hankas to me, we start the 5th awase and kuimtachi with quite big movemenst then start to make them smaller until it becomes sutemiwaza where you dont move back when attacked but simply switch hanmi and cut stright through uke or cut stright to the head or wrist. mayeb! lol
YODAN KAMAE TAI JUTSU. As can be seen from the photo when attacked by mawashi giri rather than defend against the kick a direct attack is made upon the kuzushi. All of the attitude of yodan is there no thought of defence. The centreline is naturally protected by the kamae. The escape inside the attack defends more so than the handblade. Dento This is similar to the shomen used at the conclusion of the kumi tachi. Perhaps this relates more to the hand technique. regards koyo
Ye same thing koyo, were talking about the same thing. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxH7YmvMXEw"]YouTube[/ame] in the above clip sensei is seen defending and showing how to attack in 5th awase. the finish by stepping back and cutting through ukes line and extending through his body is our kihon training, then as we move up the ladder the movements become smaller until you are cutting through without moving back and then oving straight into the kill
The wonders of you tube! Another great clip Dento. He really plants his front foot down on the cut. Teddy Bear
Ye copyright has gone to hell with youtub woohoo, ye he really tries to demostrate using the entire body for everything. believe me when your attacking him its like striking a brick wal and when he attacks you its like a typhoon.
I'm training at a dojo in Kilmarnock, Ki Shin Tai Aikido Kan, that is affiliated to the Institute of Aikido under Sensei Hayden Foster at the Hut. I used to train there years ago before they affiliated to IOA but trained at the makotokai on and off when time allowed it. Regards Teddy Bear
cool, i think a couple of your teachers may have came throught to our club a few years ago in edinburgh, i know a guy in livingston who is under hayden foster and the ioa cool..
Yeah they did a while back now. I think they found it very useful and helped them bring together their weapons and hand techniques. I think it was during one of the time periods when I was training with koyo. They spoke highly of the Aikido you guys were doing. Regards Teddy Bear
Glad you found something of value. Let me know how it goes in your training. See you monday. regards koyo
This week I have. Tonight: Tai Chi Wednesday: Judo Thursday: Wrestling + BJJ(I go for the huge amount of sparring, i'm not a wrestler) Friday: Guinness-fu Saturday: Padwork, Tai Chi and Judo Sunday: Think I have a Judo grading, will find out Wednesday. Tai Chi also. Monday: Will come to your class and report! Pretty much all grappling this week due to Judo grading I think I may have, so perfect time to play about with it. Looking forward to tonights class actually. Cheers!
Hi Brido A heads up on the Judo training. A technique like osoto gari you drive HIM into the kuzushi. Tai otoshi YOU move into the kuzushi. I am sure you will see it all come together.The subtle difference in kuzushi in Judo and Aikido. Judo states when pushed pull when pulled push. In aikido when pushed turn when pulled enter.I would be interested in what you find. delighted to see you are cross training. Definately the way to go. Below an aikido/jujtsu lock augmented by o uchi gari judo.. regards koyo
Kuzushi the hard way! [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38XQJgK7W0"]Enoeda kuzushi waza - YouTube[/ame] Used to train with a club affiliated with the KUGB - shame this sort of thing is now omitted. Cheers for the heads up in the Judo. My fave moves are Hiza Garuma and Sasae Tsuri-komi ashi, but Osoto-gari is one I have been thinking on for a while and one I have had a bit of success with. The bugbear with my Judo at the present time is leaning back, and osoto really punishes you for this. But say in sasae tsuri-komi ashi you draw uki to the front right kizushi, I have a habit of leaning back instead of turning my hip to make the space. Just one of the things emphasised last night. Osoto seems a move that has many of the ideas in it that I want to get correct and I am lacking somewhat at the moment, so I have been thinking a bit about it recently.
My main aikido shihan is Chiba Shihan and he cross trained with Enoida Shihan who he met at the JKA. We used to hear the kiai's of these two great masters and it sounded like tigers fighting. I once had to give an aikido demonstration in front of Enoida Shihan with Chiba shihan in attendance. Enoida shihan gave an incredible demonstration of karate emphasising the kuzushi. The technique in the clip is a perfect demonstration of attacking the rear kuzushi. regards koyo sasae suri komi ashi. YOU turn into his front kuzushi and draw HIM over the kuzushi relative to his front foot. Best of both worlds.Brian, the older big guy at the club is a 3rd dan judo. I am sure he will be delighted to discuss with you.
