Trump and Putin

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by Anjelica, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Anyway, to get things back to Putin, I'm not sure the picture of him as a mastermind pulling all the strings is entirely accurate. More likely, to my mind, is that Russian businessmen began cultivating a relationship with Trump years ago, he got deeper and deeper into bed with them, and Putin saw a good opportunity to damage the electoral process and humiliate Clinton. I thought this was a pretty excellent article by Julia Ioffe:

    What Putin Really Wants

     
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  2. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    I think there are a few more ingredients to socialism, but, hey, who doesn't like Thor, or Scottish vikings? :D
     
  3. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Tell me about these Scottish vikings?
     
  4. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    Vikings from Norway settled in northern Scotland. So they're Norwegian and they're vikings, and they're in Scotland. (shrug)
     
  5. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    That I know.... But that doesn't make them Scottish vikings.... That makes them Norwegian vikings... Living in Scotland.

    Just as just because trump is president.... It doesn't follow trump is presidential.......
     
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  6. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Under this lens illegal immigrants are Americans, so I kinda like it.
     
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  7. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

  8. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    That a very good point!
     
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  9. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    That, sir, is quote-worthy! :D:p:D:p
     
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  10. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Geek pedantry:

    As best we know, "Viking" is a noun and a verb, but not a nationality.
     
  11. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    To be clear I'm not asking for sympathy. I knew what I was doing and I knew the risk. Let me just say this. When have you heard of someone dying from a marijuana overdose? You haven't because it doesn't happen. But how many die of alcohol poisoning every year? How many end up in the ER with alcohol poisoning? How many die of liver failure and other alcohol related illnesses every year? A lot. Yet alcohol is legal. Why don't we ban it? Oh I forgot we already did. Prohibition didn't work out so well. Need I say any more.
     
  12. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    So your saying you disagree with trumps policies?
     
  13. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    Some of them yes. but like I say he is a businessman. He starts out with the most hardline stance and negotiates from there.
     
  14. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    That would explain why he went bankrupt so many times then
     
  15. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    And no he is not a businessman - he is POTUS and needs to start acting like one instead of a petulant manchild
     
  16. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    I do hope you aren't saying marijuana is better for you than drink, as we've already discussed MAP's policy where drugs are concerned.

    I think as we are discussing Trump & Putin then that's what we should stick to.

    If either of then have a particular stance on drug or alcohol abuse that's fine, but beware.
     
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  17. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    To be clear im not saying you should smoke pot. Im not saying its good for you. Im just saying neither is alcohol.
     
  18. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    It was a direct comparison. Move on.
     
  19. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I have heard of plenty of people killing people behind the wheel of a car when high or industrial accidents happening for the same reason - granted alcohol does this too, but because one is not as bad as the other does not make it good

    "The lesser of two evils is still evil"
     
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  20. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

     
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